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April 29th, 2011

The Communion of Saints

The Communion of Saints

The Communion of Saints

Hear the following talk from Apologetics on The Communion of Saints.

The Communion of Saints

1. Catholic Teaching

A. Catechism of the Catholic Church #946-962

1. The Communion of Saints is the Church; #946
2. All members of the one body – Christ; #947
3. All Christians are connected through the Body of Christ; #953, 2 Cor 2:5, and 2 Cor 1:5

B. Communion of Saints-Underlying Principles

1. Every Christian is a member of the Body of Christ; Rom 12:4-5, 1 Cor 12:12-13
a. Through baptism; Col 2:12; Rom 6:4,Gal 3:27
2. Physical death does not separate us from the Body of Christ; Rom 8:38-39
3. There is only one Body of Christ, in Heaven and on Earth; Eph 2:15-16; Eph 4:4
4. The Church is the Body of Christ; Eph 1:22-23, Col 1:18,24

C. Just as we can pray for one another, we can suffer for one another; Col 1:24

2. Objections to Catholic Teaching

A. Contrary to Deut 18:10-12, “calling up the dead”

1. Misinterpretation of Scripture; this is about the occult
2. Misunderstanding of Catholic practice and teaching; Catholics do not use mediums, spiritists, etc. to “call up the dead”
3. Saints in Heaven are “alive”; Mt 22:31-32 God is the God of the Living!
4. Mt 17:1-4, Elijah and Moses “appear” to Jesus and 3 disciples

B. Terminology: “Prayer” to Mary or “Prayer” to the Saints is not worshipping them;
It is asking or requesting their prayer and intercession. E.g., “I pray thee, brothers and sisters, pray for me.”

C. Saints in Heaven can’t hear us or see us; therefore, we cannot pray to them

1. Saints in Heaven do not have the same limitations that we have on Earth: Rev 21:21;1 Cor 13:12; 1 Cor 15:49; 2 Ptr 1:4; 1 Cor 2:9
2. God reveals certain knowledge to angels and saints in Heaven; 1 Cor 2:10, Rev 6:9-10, 1 Sam 28:8-19, Lk 16:19-31
3. Angels and saints, to some extent, know what’s in a person’s heart and mind; Luke 15:7-10, Mt 22:29-30, Heb 12:1

D. Prayer to Mary and the Saints is attributing God-like power to them

1. Example of left hand sticking right hand with needle; all impulses 1st go through the brain
2. All prayer 1st goes through Christ; everything is through Him, with Him, and in Him; Mary and the Saints have no power of their own

1) Saints in Heaven are alive, not dead;
2) Saints and angels in Heaven have some knowledge of events, present and future, on Earth; and some knowledge of interior dispositions;
3) This knowledge is not of their own power, it is only through Jesus Christ.

E. Why waste your time praying to the Saints when you can go straight to Jesus?

1. Why waste your time asking me for prayer when you can go straight to Jesus?
2. Misunderstanding-you cannot go to the Saints with out 1st going to Jesus (Head of the Body)
3. Prayer of a righteous man; James 5:16, 1 Ptr 3:12, Heb 12:22-23, Job 42:7-10, Ex 17:8-13
4. If there are no righteous ones on earth (Rom 3:10),and therefore, according to Protestant argument, Mary was not sinless, who was James talking about in 5:16?
5. Saints in Heaven love us and want to pray for us; “Love never ends…” 1 Cor 13:8

F. Biggest objection to Catholic teaching – 1 Tim 2:5; Jesus’ role as “sole mediator between God and man”

1. Catholics agree that Jesus is the “sole mediator between God and man”. Jesus is the only one who is true God and true man; only by Jesus’ blood are we saved; but, as members of Jesus’ Body, we can share in His role as mediator as He allows us to
2. Moses, Abraham, Job are examples of mediation and intercession between God and man; praying for one another here on earth is an example of mediating and interceding between God and man
3. 1 Tim 2:5 is being misinterpreted
4. Only one foundation, Jesus: 1 Cor 3:11. Yet, other foundations: Eph 2:19-20, Rev 21:14
5. Only one Lord, Jesus: Eph 4:4-5 Yet, other lords: Rev 19:16, 1 Ptr 3:6
6. Only one judge, Jesus: James 4:12, 2 Tim 4:1. Yet, other judges: 1 Cor 6:2, Lk 22:28-30
7. Only one Father, God: Mt 23:9 Yet, other fathers: Acts 7:2, Acts 22:1, 1 Cor 4:15
8. Only one teacher, Jesus: Mt 23:6-8 (NKJV). Yet, other teachers: Acts 13:1, 1 Cor 12:28
9. More examples of intercessors/mediators: Mt 18:10, Rev 5:8, Rev 8:3-4

Summary: Scripture tells us that there is only one Foundation, only Lord, only one Judge, only one Father, only one Teacher, just as it tells us there is one Mediator; yet, Scripture also shows us that there is more than one judge, more than one foundation, more than one lord, more than one judge, more than one father, more than one teacher. Does scripture contradict itself? No! Jesus is the head of the Body.

Jesus grants different members of the Body the graces to share in His role as foundation, as lord, as judge, as father, as teacher, and yes, as mediator. The members of the Body are allowed…through, with, and in Jesus Christ…to share in the grace and glory of the Head, Jesus Christ. And, as we have seen, Scripture is full of examples of people sharing in the mediation of Christ.

April 28th, 2011

Catholics and The Bible

Catholics and The Bible

The Bible and the Catholic Church

Hear the following talk from Apologetics about Catholics and The Bible.

Catholics and The Bible

We are presenting the same things in written format down here. But we suggest you to hear the above audio of the talk from Apologetics.

1. Literal vs Literalist Interpretation

Example: Genesis 1:1-2:2 vs. Genesis 2:4-22

A. Literal Interpretation…YES!
~CCC #116
~Literal interpretation of scripture takes into account the meaning that the author intended to convey.
Example: “It’s raining cats and dogs.”
Meaning: Its raining hard.

B. Literalist Interpretation…NO!

~ Literalist interpretation takes the exact meaning of the words without consideration of popular cultural meaning or the meaning that the author intended to convey.
Example: “It’s raining cats and dogs.”
Meaning: Cats and dogs are falling from the sky.

For more information see: “The Interpretation of the Bible in the Church”, Pontifcal Biblical Commission, Article I,F; 1993

2. The Two Creation Stories

Genesis 1:1-2:2 vs. Genesis 2:4-22

A. The Catholic, literal, interpretation
~ Neither of these stories are intended to be a chronological account.
~ They are complimentary…NOT contradictory.
~ We don’t know the exact details nor timing of creation…it was not the human author’s intent to write a scientific treatise.

B. Catholics and the Theory of Evolution
~ As Catholics we are free to believe in evolution or not to believe in evolution.
~ Evolution is a THEORY, not a scientific fact.

In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth. The earth was without form and void…Genesis 1:1-2

3. The “Myth” of Adam and Eve

A. The nine things that the Church teaches:
1. The creation of all things out of nothing by God at the beginning of time (including the creation of time).
2. The special creation of man.
3. The creation of woman from man.
4. All of humanity is descended from an original pair of human beings – i.e. Adam and Eve.
5. Adam and Eve were created in an original state of holiness, justice, and immortality.
6. A divine command was laid upon man to prove his obedience to God [do not eat from the tree…]
7. The transgression of that Divine Command at the instigation of Satan.
8. The loss of the state of holiness, justice, and immortality of our 1st parents [because of their disobedience, Adam and Eve were kicked out of Paradise].
9. The promise of a future Redeemer, a Savior [Genesis 3:15, the protoevangelium, the first “good news”]. Reference: Denzinger: #2123

B. Humani Generis, Pope Pius XII, 1950
~ Adam is the first parent of all mankind (HG #37)
~ Genesis is history in a “true sense” (HG #38)
~ Genesis chapters 1-11 is not a myth. (HG #39)

C. Catechism References for the nine teachings (see previous pages)
[CCC = Catechism of Catholic Church]
1. CCC #’s 296-299
2. CCC #’s 355-358
3. CCC #’s 371
4. CCC #’s 54-55, 359-360, 375, 390-392, 402-405, 407, 416-417, 419
~ First parents
~ Personal sin
5. CCC #’s 374-379, 384, 398, 415-416
6. CCC #’s 396-397, 399
7. CCC #’s 379, 390-392, 394-395, 397-398, 413-415
8. CCC #’s 379, 390, 399-400, 410
9. CCC #’s 410-411

By yielding to the tempter, Adam and Eve committed a personal sin, but this sin affected the human nature that they would then transmit in a fallen state. – CCC #404

4. Senses of Scripture

A. Literal Sense (already discussed)

B. Spiritual Sense (CCC #115-119)
1. Allegorical Sense-refers, ultimately, to Christ.
~ Crossing the Red Sea; with 1 Corinthians 10:1-2
~ Abraham & Isaac; with God’s sacrifice of His son, Christ.
2. Moral Sense-how we apply scripture in our daily walk with Christ.
~ 10 Commandments
3. Anagogical Sense-concerned with our ultimate destiny.
~ Judge not, lest ye be judged (Matthew 7:1)

We can view realities & events in terms of their eternal significance, leading us toward our true homeland: thus the Church on earth is a sign of the heavenly Jerusalem. – CCC #117

5. Inerrancy of Scripture

A. God is the primary author of scripture.
~ CCC 105-107

B. Providentissimus Deus, Pope Leo XIII, 1893
“It is absolutely wrong and forbidden either to narrow inspiration to certain parts only of Holy Scripture or to admit that the sacred writer has erred. For the system of those who, in order to rid themselves of these difficulties, do not hesitate to concede that divine inspiration regards the things of faith and morals, and nothing beyond…this system cannot be tolerated.”

“It follows that those who maintain that an error is possible in any genuine passage of the sacred writings either pervert the Catholic notion of inspiration or make God the author of such error.”

“…all the Fathers and Doctors [of the Church] agreed that the divine writings, as left by the [sacred authors], are free from all error, [and] they labored earnestly, with no less skill than reverence, to reconcile with each other those numerous passages which seem at variance.”

St. Augustine writing to St. Jerome: “On my own part I confess… that it is only to those books of Scripture which are now called canonical that I have learned to pay such honor and reverence as to believe most firmly that none of their writers has fallen into any error. And if in these books I meet anything which seems contrary to truth I shall not hesitate to conclude that the text is faulty or that the translator has not expressed the meaning of the passage, or that I myself do not understand.”

C. Divino Afflante Spiritu, Pope Pius XII, 1943
“…not merely because [the books of the canon] contain revelation without error, but because, having been written under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit, they have God for their author…When, subsequently, some Catholic writers, in spite of this solemn definition of Catholic doctrine, by which such divine authority is claimed for the ‘entire books with all their parts’ as to secure freedom from any error whatsoever, [when these Catholic writers] ventured to restrict the truth of Sacred Scripture solely to matters of faith and morals…Leo XIII…justly and rightly condemned these errors.” – DAS #1

“Finally, it is absolutely wrong and forbidden ‘either to narrow inspiration to certain passages of Holy Scripture, or to admit that the sacred writer has erred’…” – DAS #3

“For as the substantial Word of God became like to men in all things,’except sin,’ so the words of God, expressed in human language, are made like to human speech inn every respect, except error.” – DAS #37

D. Humani Generis, Pope Pius XII, 1950
“For some go so far as to pervert the sense of the Vatican Council’s definition [Vatican Council I] that God is the author of Holy Scripture, and they put forward again the opinion, already often condemned, which asserts that immunity from error extends only to those parts of the Bible that treat of God or of moral and religious matters.” – HG #22

E. Vatican Council II, Dei Verbum, 1965
“Sacred Scripture is the speech of God as it is put down in writing under the breath of the Holy Spirit.” – DV #9
“Since, therefore, all that the…sacred writers affirm should be regarded as affirmed by the Holy Spirit, we must acknowledge that the books of Scripture, firmly, faithfully, and without error, teach that truth which God, for the sake of our salvation, wished to see confided to the sacred Scriptures. Thus ‘all Scripture is inspired by God, and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction and for training in righteousness…[2 Tim 3:16]” – DV #11

Demand to know what the Church teaches from the Source, the Church. – John Martignoni

Tips for Reading the Bible

Scott Hahn tape set, “Salvation History”, from St. Joseph Communications
Jeff Cavins, “Bible Timeline”
Jeff Cavins/Scott Hahn tape or video set, “Our Father’s Plan”.
Scott Hahn tape set, “Finding Christ in the Old Testament”, from St. Joseph Communications

When first reading a book of Scripture, try to read several chapters at a time to get the “big picture”, and then, after finishing the book, go back and study the chapters one at a time.

At the very front of the book, Genesis 2:24, we see the Sacrament of Matrimony: “…and they become one flesh.” At the end of the book, Revelation, chapters 19 and 21, we read of the wedding feast of the Lamb. The Bible, beginning and end and all in between is about marriage of the Lamb to His Bride, the Church…to us. Read the Bible as a letter from your Divine Spouse. Pray to Him for guidance.

Join a Catholic Bible Study!

This deposit of faith our Divine Redeemer has given for authentic interpretation not to each of the faithful, not even to theologians, but only to the Teaching Authority of the Church. – Pope Pius XII, Humani Generis, #21

March 28th, 2011

The Sacraments and The Bible

The Sacraments and The Bible

Baptism, Confession and The Eucharist

Hear the following talk from Apologetics about The Sacraments and The Bible.

Sacraments and the Bible

The seven sacraments are signs and instruments by which the Holy Spirit spreads the grace of Christ the head throughout the Church which is his Body – Catechism of the Catholic Church (CCC) #774

I. Sacraments

a) A visible sign, instituted by Christ, by which grace is conveyed to our souls.

CCC #774, CCC #1084, CCC #1116, CCC #1127

b) Many Protestant denominations have concepts of the sacraments.

~ Eastern Orthodox recognizes the same 7 Sacraments as Catholics.

~ Lutherans, Episcopalians, and to a lesser degree, Methodists and Presbyterians also have a concept of “Sacrament” through their beliefs are not identical to ours.

Sacraments are actions of the Holy Spirit at work in [Christ’s] Body, the Church. – CCC #1116

II. Baptism

a) Forgiveness of sins & reception of the Holy Spirit
~ Ezekiel 36:25-27 (“All scripture…”: 2 Tim 3:16)
~ Acts 2:38
~ Acts 22:16

b) Baptized into one body
~ 1 Corinthians 12:13
~ Galatians 3:27
~ Colossians 2:11-12

c) Baptism necessary for salvation
~ 1 Peter 3:20-21
~ John 3:5 (also note verse 22)

d) Instituted by Christ
~ Matthew 28:19

“…the New Testament is hidden in the Old, and the Old Testament is revealed in the New.” – St. Augustine

III. Confession

a) Confess your sins to men
~ Leviticus 5:5-6 (“All scripture…”: 2 Tim 3:16)
(Law is a shadow: Hebrews 10:1)
~ 1 John 1:9
~ James 5:16

b) Can men forgive sins?
~ Only God has the power to forgive sins but He exercises this power through men.
~ Mark 2:7
~ Matthew 9:1-8

c) Instituted by Christ
~ John 20:21-23

When the crowds saw it, they were afraid , and the glorified God, who had given such authority to men. – Matthew 9:8

IV. The Eucharist

a) A perfect offering shall be made
~ Malachi 1:11 (“All scripture…”: 2 Tim 3:16)

b) Flesh & Blood
~ John 6
~ Matthew 26:26-28, Mark 14:22-24,Luke 22:19-20
~ 1 Cor 11:23-26, 27-29

c) Many disciples leave
~ John 6:66
~ Usually Jesus explains parables to avoid confusion as in: Matthew 13; 15:15; 17:10-19; chapter 19

Therefore whoever eats this bread or drinks this cup of the Lord in an un-worthy manner will be guilty of the body and blood of the Lord. – 1 Cor 11:27

d) Symbolic body & blood…NO!

~ Do Protestants believe that they get eternal life from symbolically eating bread and drinking grape juice? Certainly not.

~How is this a “hard saying” if Jesus is speaking “symbolically”?

~Symbolic bread & grape juice harder to believe than miracle of the loaves & fishes?  Harder than Jesus walking on water?

~Why didn’t Jesus explain that he was talking symbolically so that the disciples wouldn’t leave?

For he who eats and drinks in an unworthy manner eats and drinks judgment to himself, not discerning the Lord’s body. – 1 Corinthians 11:29

e) Greater than the manna

~ John 6:30-32 (Manna-Exodus 16:4-36)

f) Believers left Him

~ John 2:11 & 3:16 & 6:66

g) “MY Flesh”

~ John 6:58

~ John 6:51

~ The same flesh that was hung on the cross.

h) Instituted by Christ

~ Luke 22:19

This is my body, which will be given for you; do this in memory of me. – Luke 22:19

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