Why Pray To Virgin Mary?

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1. @#1559
   Dear Sil, my sympathy for your cause! May this message help you to be strong and may find peace in your heart, trust God! We live on earth full of trials but by the grace of God, we remain standing like trees. Even if the leaves are falling, still there are new leaves of hope waiting. When we feel being poisoned by stress, pressures, pain, and failures, the best antidote is to pray. This is for you Sil:

   Whenever I am troubled and lost and deep despair,
   I bundle all my troubles up,
   and go to God in prayer.

   I tell him I am heartsick,
   and lost and lonely too. That my mind is deeply
   burdened and I don’t know what to do.

   And then, I just keep quiet
   and think only of peace
   and if I abide in stillness my restless murmurings cease.

   Jesus king of mercy I trust in you!

   Ave Maria!

2. that all nonsense.we are nit told of where Mary went after Jesus acceded, know knows, maybe she became a sinner or something else and then pray her…how????lets not be blinded by cheap believes that are not based on the word of God.

3. 1563

   Jimo,

   Throughout Christian history there have been confirmation of Mary’s appearances and although there are recorded false ones the majority have been confirmed.

   And the confirmers are not alone members of the Catholic Church of Christ.In fact enquiries have been carried out by atheists,agnostics, and members of other faiths and although acknowledgeing the reality of cures,etc., could not provide answers.The latter includes scientists who after serious studies could not provide answers for authentic cures of many people.

   Also scientists have studied stigmatism and Eucharistic miracles and allied cures without being able to condemn them as false.So bear in mind God is God and he works in mysterious ways.To limit his activity to whats recorded in the Bible is very unchristian for it is an attack on his power and will.

4. “Are apparitions of Mary, such as Lady Fatima, true messages from God?”

   In Catholic tradition, there are many reported occurrences of Mary, angels, and/or saints appearing and delivering a message from God. It is likely that, at least in some of these cases, the people were genuinely seeing something supernatural. While some of what is seen in various places is perhaps the work of charlatans, other apparitions were apparently authentic. However, an apparition being authentic does not mean it is a message from God or a genuine appearance of Mary, an angel, or a saint. Scripture declares that Satan and his demons masquerade as angels of light (2 Corinthians 11:14-15). Satanic deception is just as possible an explanation for the apparitions.

   The only way to determine whether an apparition is a “lying wonder” or a genuine message from God is to compare the message of the apparition with Scripture. If the teachings that are attached to these apparitions are contrary to the Word of God, the apparitions themselves are then satanic in nature. A study of the teachings of Our Lady Fatima with the “Miracle of the Sun” is a good example.

   It would indeed seem that something spectacular happened on October 13, 1917, and that “something” did in fact appear and deliver a message. The fact that its timing coincided with what had been told to the shepherd children three months earlier would seem to tie this event with the apparitions they had been seeing over the previous months, first of the angel and later of the “Lady of Fatima.”

   When one compares the message of Fatima to what the Bible teaches, it is evident that the message of Fatima combines some biblical truth with several unbiblical practices and teachings. The following paragraphs are quoted directly from a website dedicated to the “Lady of Fatima,” http://www.fatima.org. Specific words or sentences are underlined to indicate them to be unbiblical (not taught by the Bible), or anti-biblical (contradictory to the Bible). Following the lengthy quotations, more information will be given with specific reasons for classifying these apparitions as “lying wonders.” Here then is a quoted summary of the overall message given by the Lady of Fatima:

   The Message of Lady Fatima in General

   “The general Message of Fatima is not complicated. Its requests are for prayer, reparation, repentance, and sacrifice, and the abandonment of sin. Before Our Lady appeared to the three shepherd children, Lucy, Francisco and Jacinta, the Angel of Peace visited them. The Angel prepared the children to receive the Blessed Virgin Mary, and his instructions are an important aspect of the Message that is often overlooked.

   “The Angel demonstrated to the children the fervent, attentive, and composed manner in which we should all pray, and the reverence we should show toward God in prayer. He also explained to them the great importance of praying and making sacrifices in reparation for the offenses committed against God. He told them: ‘Make of everything you can a sacrifice and offer it to God as an act of reparation for the sins by which He is offended, and in supplication, for the conversion of sinners.’ In his third and final apparition to the children, the Angel gave them Holy Communion, and demonstrated the proper way to receive Our Lord in the Eucharist: all three children knelt to receive Communion; Lucy was given the Sacred Host on the tongue and the Angel shared the Blood of the Chalice between Francisco and Jacinta.

   “Our Lady stressed the importance of praying the Rosary in each of Her apparitions, asking the children to pray the Rosary every day for peace. Another principal part of the Message of Fatima is devotion to Our Lady’s Immaculate Heart, which is terribly outraged and offended by the sins of humanity, and we are lovingly urged to console Her by making reparation. She showed Her Heart, surrounded by piercing thorns (which represented the sins against Her Immaculate Heart), to the children, who understood that their sacrifices could help to console Her.

   “The children also saw that God is terribly offended by the sins of humanity, and that He desires each of us and all mankind to abandon sin and make reparation for their crimes through prayer and sacrifice. Our Lady sadly pleaded: ‘Do not offend the Lord our God any more, for He is already too much offended!’

   “The children were also told to pray and sacrifice themselves for sinners, in order to save them from hell. The children were briefly shown a vision of hell, after which Our Lady told them: ‘You have seen hell where the souls of poor sinners go. To save them, God wishes to establish in the world devotion to My Immaculate Heart. If what I say to you is done, many souls will be saved and there will be peace.’

   “Our Lady indicated to us the specific root of all the troubles in the world, the one that causes world wars and such terrible suffering: sin. She then gave a solution, first to individual people, then to the Church’s leaders. God asks each one of us to stop offending Him. We must pray, especially the Rosary. By this frequent prayer of the Rosary, we will get the graces we need to overcome sin. God wants us to have devotion to the Immaculate Heart of Mary and to work to spread this devotion throughout the world. Our Lady said, ‘My Immaculate Heart will be your refuge and the way that will lead you to God.’ If we wish to go to God, we have a sure way to Him through true devotion to the Immaculate Heart of His Mother.

   “In order to move ever closer to Her, and therefore to Her Son, Our Lady stressed the importance of praying at least five decades of the Rosary daily. She asked us to wear the Brown Scapular. And we must make sacrifices, especially the sacrifice of doing our daily duty, in reparation for the sins committed against Our Lord and Our Lady. She also stressed the necessity of prayers and sacrifices to save poor sinners from hell. The Message of Fatima, to individual souls, is summarized in these things.”

   On the same website, there is recorded an interview between Sister Lucy (the 10-year-old shepherd girl who was among the three children who saw the apparitions in 1917) and a Father Fuentes. The interview took place in 1957. In this interview focusing on Fatima and its message, Sister Lucy says the following:

   “Father, the devil is in the mood for engaging in a decisive battle against the Blessed Virgin, and the devil knows what it is that most offends God, and which in a short space of time will gain for him the greatest number of souls. Thus the devil does everything to overcome souls consecrated to God, because in this way the devil will succeed in leaving the souls of the faithful abandoned by their leaders, thereby the more easily to seize them.

   “Father, the Most Holy Virgin did not tell me that we are in the last times of the world, but She made me understand this for three reasons. The first reason is because She told me that the devil is in the mood for engaging in a decisive battle against the Virgin. And a decisive battle is the final battle where one side will be victorious and the other side will suffer defeat. Hence from now on we must choose sides. Either we are for God or we are for the devil; there is no other possibility.

   “The second reason is because She said to my cousins as well as to myself, that God is giving two last remedies to the world. They are the Holy Rosary and devotion to the Immaculate Heart of Mary. These are the last two remedies which signify that there will be no others.

   “The third reason is because in the plans of Divine Providence, God always, before He is about to chastise the world, exhausts all other remedies. Now, when He sees that the world pays no attention whatsoever then, as we say in our imperfect manner of speaking, He offers us with a certain trepidation the last means of salvation, His Most Holy Mother. It is with a certain trepidation because if you despise and reject this ultimate means, we will not have any more forgiveness from Heaven, because we will have committed a sin which the Gospel calls the sin against the Holy Ghost. This sin consists of openly rejecting, with full knowledge and consent, the salvation which He offers. Let us remember that Jesus Christ is a very good Son and that He does not permit that we offend and despise His Most Holy Mother. We have recorded through many centuries of Church history the obvious testimony which demonstrates by the terrible chastisements which have befallen those who have attacked the honor of His Most Holy Mother, how Our Lord Jesus Christ has always defended the honor of His Mother.

   “The two means for saving the world are prayer and sacrifice. [Regarding the Holy Rosary, Sister Lucy said:] Look, Father, the Most Holy Virgin, in these last times in which we live, has given a new efficacy to the recitation of the Rosary to such an extent that there is no problem, no matter how difficult it is, whether temporal or above all spiritual, in the personal life of each one of us, of our families, of the families of the world or of the religious communities, or even of the life of peoples and nations, that cannot be solved by the Rosary. There is no problem, I tell you, no matter how difficult it is, that we cannot resolve by the prayer of the Holy Rosary. With the Holy Rosary we will sanctify ourselves. We will console Our Lord and obtain the salvation of many souls. “Finally, devotion to the Immaculate Heart of Mary, our Most Holy Mother, consists in considering Her as the seat of mercy, of goodness and of pardon, and as the sure door of entering Heaven.”

   In the above paragraphs concerning the message that Sister Lucy felt that the apparition wished to communicate to the world, there are so many things that are not only not found in Scripture but are contrary to Scripture.

   1) Mary is referred to as the “Most Holy Mother” and having an “Immaculate Heart.” By this Catholics do not mean that she was given the righteousness and holiness given to saints through the imputed righteousness of Christ (2 Corinthians 5:17-21) but that she was saved from sin in every form through having been conceived in her mother’s womb without the stain of original sin. Never does the Bible refer to Mary as being sinless. Never does it refer to her having an immaculate heart. Rather, Mary refers to God as her Savior (Luke 1:47). This places her with the rest of humanity, as a sinner needing a Savior, but the Catholic Church holds that Mary was saved from sin through the merits of Christ by being conceived without sin and then living a sinless life. Again, never is this taught in Scripture. Rather, what Scripture teaches is that there is only one exception to the truth that we are all sinners (Romans 3:10, 3:23, etc.). That single exception is Jesus Christ (2 Corinthians 5:21; 1 Peter 2:22; 1 John 3:5).

   2) Sister Lucy speaks of devotion to the “Immaculate Heart” of Mary and saying the Rosary as the “last two remedies to the world.” She also states that there is no problem that cannot be solved by saying the Rosary. It is the teaching of Fatima that saying the Rosary will lead to the salvation of many souls. Again, never is such a teaching found in Scripture. The Rosary’s main prayer is the “Hail, Mary,” which is repeated fifty times. The first half of it is a quote from Scripture of the greeting of the angel to Mary, “Hail, Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with thee, blessed art thou among women and blessed is the fruit of thy womb.” but the second half says, “Holy Mary, Mother of God, pray for us sinners now and at the hour of our death.” Besides giving Mary a title which Scripture does not, it asks Mary to pray for us. Indeed, Catholics not only see Mary as the one through whom ALL of God’s grace flows, and the one who intercedes to her Son on our behalf, but Catholics also direct prayers to her to deliver people from sin, from war, etc. Pope John Paul II’s prayer from the early 1980s to Mary is an example of such. In this prayer he repeatedly pleads to Mary to “deliver us” from nuclear war, famine, self-destruction, injustice, etc.

   Again, never do we find a godly person in Scripture praying to anyone but God or asking for intercession by anyone but those still living on this earth. Prayer to Mary or to saints is not found in the Bible. Rather, Scripture directs us to pray to God (Luke 11:1-2; Matthew 6:6-9; Philippians 4:6; Acts 8:22; Luke 10:2, etc.)! God entreats us to come boldly unto the throne of grace (His throne) that we may find grace and help in time of need (Hebrews 4:14-16). God promised us that the Holy Spirit makes intercession for us according to the will of God with groanings that cannot be uttered (Romans 8:26). Why do we need to go through a saint, angel or Mary, especially considering the fact that neither the example of doing so nor the command of doing so is ever given in Scripture? Concerning prayer, we have the repeated example of two things in Scripture:

   a) Prayer is made to God alone (1 Corinthians 11:5; Romans 10:1; 15:30; Acts 12:5; Acts 10:2; Acts 8:24; Acts 1:24; Zechariah 8:21-22; Jonah 2:7; 4:2, etc.)

   b) Requests for prayer are made only to the living (1 Thessalonians 5:25; 2 Thessalonians 3:1; Hebrews 13:18, etc.)

   In addition, nowhere is it taught that Mary is all-seeing, all-hearing, and omniscient (or nearly so), as she would have to be to hear and respond to the multitude of prayers that are directed toward her from the many Catholics who pray to her simultaneously around the world. Instead Scripture teaches that both angels and the spirits of the dead are finite beings, able to only be in one place at a time (Daniel 9:20-23; Luke 16:19f).

   3) One of the repeated messages of Fatima is the call for personal “reparation” or “penance.” This Catholic concept teaches that we must make amends to God and to Mary for the sins we have committed against them. Repeating one of the phrases from “The Message in General,” the angel told the children to “make of everything you can a sacrifice and offer it to God as an act of reparation for the sins by which He is offended…” Reparation is defined as “an expiation … something done or paid as amends; compensation.” This ties in with the Roman Catholic teaching of temporal punishment which a person can take care of through penance now or through time spent in purgatory later. The Bible NEVER speaks of the need to make “reparation” for our sins or doing “penance” to pay for our sins. Rather, what it teaches is that we are to offer our lives as living sacrifices to God in gratitude for all of the mercies He has shown us in salvation (Romans 12:1-2). When a person becomes a Christian, his sins are forgiven and paid for in full by Christ. There remains no further payment that can be made for them, no further expiation required.

   4) A key aspect of following the Lady of Fatima is the bowing down before and venerating the images associated with the apparition. Throughout the Bible, we find that any time someone bows down before one of the “saints” or angels, he is told to get up and to stop. Only when done to “the Angel of the Lord” (a pre-incarnate appearance of Christ) or before Jesus or God the Father is such veneration accepted. Catholics make a distinction between “worshiping” God and “venerating” Mary and the saints, but when John the Apostle prostrates himself before an angel, the angel does not ask, “Are you worshiping me or venerating me?” The angel simply tells him to stop and to “worship God” (Revelation 19:10). Likewise, when Peter was being “venerated” (prokuneo – the Greek word that the Catholic Church uses for “veneration” as opposed to “adoration” which only God deserves) by Cornelius in Acts 10:25, Peter tells Cornelius, “Stand up, I myself am also a man.” It should be noted that prokuneo is used in the Revelation passage as well. Thus, we have the repeated example of an angel or “saint” being “honored” and the command to stop doing so!

   Thus, praying to Mary is contrary to the scriptural admonition to pray to God and the scriptural example to do so. It is also illogical to substitute praying to an all-loving, omniscient, omnipotent God (Psalm 139; Hebrews 4:14-16) for praying to some saint or Mary, when there is no scriptural evidence that they can even hear prayers. To pray to saints and Mary on a worldwide basis is to ascribe to them the attributes of omnipresence and omniscience which God alone possesses—this truly is idolatry!

   5)Concerning the “Miracle of the Sun,” there are repeated cases in which “lying wonders” are spoken of in Scripture (Exodus 7:22; 8:7; 8:18; Matthew 24:24; Mark 13:22; Revelation 13:13-14). God tells us in Deuteronomy 13:1f that when someone makes a prediction that comes true or gives a seemingly miraculous “sign,” but he is teaching the worship of strange gods, not to give heed to him but rather to treat him as a false prophet.

   For a Christian, the “content of faith” ought to be the Bible and what it teaches (Isaiah 8:20; 2 Timothy 3:16). And while Catholics may argue that the “Lady of Fatima” is not calling on us to worship “strange gods” but to worship the true God, the idea of venerating Mary to such an extent that her “Immaculate Heart” is put on the same level of devotion as Jesus’ “Sacred Heart” is undeniably the exaltation of a woman to a position never given to her in Scripture—equality with God. To honor her as one would honor Christ is to exalt her. Likewise, to focus on Mary to such an extent that we spend more time praying to her than to God is also idolatrous, especially in light of the direct commands of Scripture to pray to God and the complete silence in Scripture concerning any exaltation of, or prayer to, Mary.

   Was the “Miracle of the Sun” a lying wonder? Based on biblical teaching, it would certainly seem so. Satan has no problem mixing enough truth to make a teaching seem right with just enough error to damn souls to hell. Where is the gospel of salvation by grace through faith in Christ—the message repeated throughout the whole of the New Testament—ever mentioned in the whole message of Fatima? Where is it ever mentioned that salvation is only through faith in Christ’s finished work on Calvary and that our works have no merit apart from Him (Ephesians 2:8-9)? Penance and making offerings for reparation of our sins are antithetical to Christ’s finished work on Calvary and of our need for salvation by grace alone through faith in Him alone. Calling upon Mary and her “Immaculate Heart” and viewing the Rosary as the ultimate means of saving souls fly in the face of such biblical truths as Acts 4:12 and 1 Timothy 2:5. “To the law and to the testimony! If they do not speak according to this word, it is because there is no light in them” (Isaiah 8:20).

5. Apocalypse (Revelation) 12:17
   And the dragon was angry against the woman: and went to make war with the rest of her seed, who keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.

6. Kirsten’s path from the Evangelical Church to Catholicism

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   This article was originally printed by the editor in October 2008 in “Restoration”, a Madonna House publication… Kirsten married David of this site (Jan. 1, 2011).

   She Hungered for the Eucharist: A Conversion Story

   “Why do we only have communion once a month?” Kirsten asked herself in frustration. “I want it every day.” “We” was the small Evangelical Church to which she belonged.

   Kirsten, who was in her early thirties, had recently moved from Calgary, Alberta to Kelowna, British Columbia to join a prayer house.

   She loved the passage in John 6. I tell you most solemnly, if you do not eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you will not have life in you. He who eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life… For my flesh is real food and my blood is real drink. He who eats my flesh and drinks my blood lives in me and I live in him (53-56).

   “Why do people never talk about this passage,” she wondered. “Why do they never preach about it?”

   Kirsten felt the need of Christ’s strength and sustenance, a strength and sustenance she felt she would receive only from communion. She had read an evangelical article about people doing a most unusual thing—”giving themselves communion.” She felt called to do this—every day!

   So in the morning as part of her prayer, her “fellowship with the Lord,” she ate a cracker and drank water as a memorial of the Eucharist. Then she would pray for anywhere from ten minutes to an hour and a half.

   In 2003 when she’d been with the prayer house for two years, Kirsten felt the Lord was calling her to go to Ottawa. A couple from her province had been talking about opening a prayer house there to pray for the Canadian government, especially for its political leaders.

   “Ottawa!” she told the Lord. “I don’t want to go to Ottawa. I don’t know anyone there; I’m a westerner. This is not in my plans.” And since that house was not yet opened, she stayed where she was, waiting on the Lord.

   In the summer of 2006 Kirsten had a dream about the Eucharist. In that dream she felt the Lord saying to her that more healing for her would be found in the Eucharist and more treasures and depths,that cannot be found in communion as she knew it. At this point, Kirtsten had been “doing communion” every morning for four years.

   When she woke up, she said, “Lord, if that dream is from you, put it in my face because otherwise I’m not touching it. That’s Catholic!”

   Catholic? To Kirsten that meant idol worship, Mary worship, meaningless rote prayers, and other bad things as well.

   In January 2007, just a few months after her dream, it was time to head east to Ottawa. When the people in her church were blessing her to go, someone gave her a prophetic word: “There is something for you at Dows Lake.” Dows Lake? She had never heard of it, and promptly forgot about it.

   When she arrived in Ottawa, she attended a church conference, staying at a hostel because the house of prayer was not yet ready for her to move into. Since it probably wouldn’t be ready for a couple of months, she asked the Lord to find her a place to stay in the meantime. Perhaps she’d make some contacts at the conference.

   The last day of the conference, she met a woman who, on discovering she needed a place to stay, said to her, “I just sold my townhouse, but the new owners won’t be taking possession for another two weeks. You are welcome to stay there until then.”

   Kirsten was very grateful, and as she was driving to the town house, the woman happened to mention that she was Catholic. When she heard this, Kirsten was very much afraid. “O God,” she prayed, “please protect me from deception.”

   The woman had many Catholic books, and Kirsten spent much of the next two weeks reading—about the Eucharist, the lives of the saints, and other Catholic subjects. She avoided the CD about the conversion of Scott Hahn.

   She was also looking for a place where she could live when the two weeks were up. It was February, and the snow was knee-deep. She’d tried a number of things, but nothing suitable seemed to be available.

   Finally she bought a copy of the city’s daily newspaper, The Ottawa Citizen, and looked at the ads. There in bold print were the words, “Dows Lake.” Dows Lake! There in Dows Lake, which she later discovered was the name of a neighborhood, was a room for rent, one described as being in “a clean, quiet, Christian home.”

   Kirsten phoned, explained that she would only be there for a few months, and asked if she would be able to spend the mornings in prayer.

   “Oh, yes,” the woman answered. “I’m a charismatic Catholic, and there’s a lovely church just two blocks away that you’d love.”

   Oh no, another Catholic! Kirsten had never met a single Catholic until she was in her late twenties, and now she had met two in a row.

   “You won’t find me setting foot in that church,” Kirsten said to herself. “I’ll just tolerate that house until I can get out. I pray the bIood of Jesus over me. Save me from deception, Father.”

   The last night in the town house, Kirsten got up the nerve to listen to the Scott Hahn CD. As soon as she put it in the machine, she began to weep. She knew that the Holy Spirit was speaking to her. Scott Hahn, too, had been anti-Catholic. He had been a prominent Protestant theologian and now he was a Catholic. Surely he hadn’t been deceived!

   That night she wrote in her journal, “Lord, I fear where you are asking me to go. Help me to just keep following you.”

   She moved to the room at Dows Lake and some time later, it hit her. “There’s a theme to what’s happening in my life. It’s called ‘Catholic.’”

   She figured that maybe God was leading her to that house so that she (Kirsten) could open up this woman’s eyes and free her from her Mary-worship and rote prayers.

   After some hesitation and praying for the Lord’s protection, Kirsten did attend Mass with her landlady. When it came time for Communion, she wept and wept and wept.

   She started attending Mass and every time the same thing happened. When Communion time came, she would weep.

   Then when her landlady invited her to a New Life Retreat, she went. Gradually there grew in her a love for things Catholic. There was nothing gradual about her hunger for the Eucharist, however. It was a raging fire.

   In June the director of the house of prayer phoned to let her know that the house was ready for her to move into.

   What to do? She knew that she was moving toward the Catholic Church. Would they still let her be a part of the Evangelical prayer house? One thing was clear. If she had to make a choice between the house of prayer and the Catholic Church, she would choose the Eucharist and the Catholic Church.

   She met with the director. “We do want this house to be non-denominational,” he said “We’re all on a journey. We’ll still have you here.” So she moved to the evangelical house of prayer.

   By August it was very clear to Kirsten that the Lord was calling her to become a Catholic. She entered into a customized program which would prepare her to be received into the Catholic Church.

   Her hunger for the Eucharist was becoming unbearable. Finally, Kirsten went to the priest she had been talking with. “I can’t wait until Easter for the Eucharist,” she said. “Can anything be done? Can’t I become a Catholic earlier?”

   Fr. Charles knew that Kirsten had a theology degree and that she had been doing a lot of reading and studying, and he connected her with a couple of people so that she could get more input. He told her she could be received into the Church in November.

   And so it happened. On November 18, 2007, when Kirsten made her profession of faith, several people from the evangelical house of prayer attended.

   Kirsten doesn’t know where the Lord will lead her next but as of this writing she is a member of the Evangelical house of prayer—a Catholic, as she says, in an Evangelical world.

   What does she make of all these changes? “I’m learning I can’t put God in a box,” she said. “My vision is so limited. My prayer is: ‘Lord, help me keep up with you and keep following you.’ His plans are much bigger than ours. Never did I think I’d be living in Ottawa. And never in my wildest dreams did I imagine I would become a Catholic!”

   Jesus king of mercy i trust in you!

   Ave Maria!

7. An Evangelical discovers the Rosary

   I was skeptical.

   Sitting there on the couch between my two friends, we began the Rosary.

   I had been a Catholic for just over four months, a whirlwind journey that brought me to a November confirmation. It was a shortened RCIA program. I told the priest that I didn’t want to wait until Easter to receive Our Lord. He granted my request because of my evangelical Theology degree and my six years as a full-time evangelical prayer missionary. As a missionary I had a dream about the Eucharist. I knew it was true.

   The Rosary was a different story!

   I knew it wasn’t something I ‘had’ to practice to be a good Catholic. As a former charismatic evangelical, I viewed the Rosary as an object of suspicion, a practice that Catholics felt they ‘had’ to do to be heard by God, or to gain His approval. I was wary of becoming wrapped up in “works”. After all, Jesus and I had a tight relationship and I didn’t think I needed “rote” prayers in order to get His attention.

   However, as a member of a faithful parish in a vibrant Catholic community, it was almost impossible to avoid the Rosary. I knew I needed to test it. In the past when I had concerns about something, the Lord had always been faithful to show me His will. I got a sense that I was to try it and involve my two friends.

   I summoned all my courage and asked Linda and Margarita if they would pray the Rosary with me on Easter Sunday. We would do it together because I didn’t know how. They would guide me through the prayers and I would follow along.

   Sitting on the comfy leather couch, with Linda on my right and Margarita on my left, we began the centuries-old prayer. I really wanted to give it an honest try, so I timidly prayed the prayers with a focused heart, while a part of me was still asking God to keep me from any deception or idolatrous worship.

   As we prayed through the decades, it was just as I suspected it would be, I didn’t feel any particular “anointing”.

   As we entered into the concluding prayer, “Hail Holy Queen”, something stirred deep within me and I began to cry. It quickly escalated into something that I can only describe as loud, wailing, desperate pleas for help, as my spirit cried out loudly, “Help me Jesus! Help me Father!” This was similar to an inner healing experience I had before becoming a missionary, except this was more powerful. It was like a wrecking ball was knocking down walls I didn’t even know were there, places that hadn’t yet healed.

   I found out later my friend Linda was panicking about what the neighbours would think. She handed me a pillow and I gladly used it to muffle the sound of my cries. After several minutes, it was done. I was more whole, somehow, on the inside. Many of the barriers that kept me from the Father and Jesus were no more.

   Without even realizing it, I had tapped into a mystery that countless faithful souls before me had experienced: the hidden strength of Our Lady who declares in the Bible, “my soul magnifies the Lord”; and magnify, she did! That experience was all I needed; I decided to pray the Rosary daily. It was the beginning of a beautiful relatiionship with Mary.

   I believe that the barriers that were removed that day (whether from childhood self protection or deep wounds, I don’t know) enabled me to walk more fully in the Father’s will for my life. Now I’m married, and praying the Rosary daily with my husband not only strengthens our relationship with Jesus, but also with one another. We’re convinced that this prayer will help us to live a future marked by unity, faith, hope and love.

   PS – Kirsten was married to David MacDonald, Jan 1st, 2011.

   Jesus king of mercy I trust in you!

   Ave Maria!

8. Is the Eucharist a Pagan Sun God?

   One can see many picture frames sold of Mary, saints, holy family .. but if one is observant, we see there is a “moon/sun” shape ring shown hovering just above the heads. This is babylonian pagan sun worship that is not christian. Relics found in St.Peter’s Basilica at the Vatican showns various pagan gods intermixed with purportedly Christian biblical statues.

   To get to the bottom of the truth … one can watch David Clouds videos on youtube, that will take you on a virtual tour inside St.Peter’s basilica being led by a Roman Catholic tour-guide. Paste “youtube.com/watch?v=6mrcoVZZ8K8” to see the videos without the quotes.

9. 1569

   What a stupid and satanic based question!!!!!!!
   He has just revealed his true self!

   The ‘shape'(halo)is but an artistic symbol of the person sharing the grace of the Holy Spirit as an authentic follower of Jesus Christ to a holy level.

   This person claims that the Bible is the be all and the end all yet he denies the Eucharist and mocks it.Thus he is mocking Jesus Christ.

   When Jesus expressed this truth as confirmed by Scripture (about his presence in the Eucharist) many of his followers then walked away.That was at Capernaum.”How can this man give us his flesh to eat?” A question agreed too by the above author.

   Thus the hypocricy of the person ‘the written word is all that matters’ but denies the statements of Jesus when Our Lord performed the greatest miracle ever.

   Perhaps like another of similar mentality as referred too previously in an early article above he has no time for which the other referred to as ‘cannabalism’.

   Begone satan you will never succeed!!!!!!!

10. 1570:

    my post sure stirred up a hornets’ nest.

    The ‘shape’(halo)is but an artistic symbol of the person sharing the grace of the Holy Spirit as an authentic follower of Jesus Christ to a holy level.

    God does not share His glory but all born again believers “saints” in the body of Christ are made “partakers” (and NOT sharer’s) of His Grace. There is no exclusivity in the Kingdom of God. If the RC Church preaches exclusiveness, it is not the Church of Christ and is preaching another false doctrine/gospel which is not of Christ. When Jesus said in John 17:21 – “that all may be one” – he meant that all believers’ in the body of Christ must have one “spiritual” unity, being partakers in one body (a spiritual church) in which he is the head.

    2 Peter 1:4 Whereby are given unto us exceeding great and precious promises: that by these ye might be partakers of the divine nature, having escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust.

    That was at Capernaum.”How can this man give us his flesh to eat?”

    Let’s take an example. if you met somebody on the street who tells you that you should eat his flesh. What would be your reaction?

    Begone satan you will never succeed!!!!!

    You are the true-blue satan posing as an angel of light with your fancy-dandy theories. May be you can be more trained at guerilla warfare instead by joining the Irish Republican Army. :)

11. Dear Liam,

    The guy you are talking to are possessed by the evil spirit. Have you not noticed that when he was cornered he has spreading so much venom in his tongue, (only a snake can do that) calling names not involved in your discussions, and sometimes, he was making argument that he did not even know the title he had created, (like Christian Initiation) it only appear in a pigment of his imagination dictated by his mentor the father of all lies.

    And the worst of it he has no etiquette, he did not even know to response properly in a debate. He would conveniently leave the issue when he cannot answer the challenge, am I right Alan? There is no hope for this guy, it is better to talk to a stupid fool than someone who speaks without thinking. (Prov.29:20)

    What I am seeing now is the fulfillment of the prophesy in Genesis 3:15 and the Rev.12:17, keep up the good work brother Liam.

    Jesus king of mercy I trust in you!

    Ave Maria!

12. 1573

    Alan, you are THEE possible example of exclusivity in the Kingdom of God.For although satan may try to use you as he has done thousands in the past and at present he is like yourself barking up the wrong tree.

    Jesus, is not just someone that you meet on the street.It was the last supper.”This is my body…this is my blood poured out for you”.
    In other words you are stating that Jesus was lying!But Jesus is the Truth and cannot be untruthful!

    Or are you abandoning ‘scripture’as the source of all truth?If you are please have a rethink or turn to ‘tradition’:there you will obtain enough ‘truth’to help you return to ‘scripture’.

    In the meantime listen to St.Paul-“Every time you eat this bread and drink this cup,you are proclaiming his death,and so anyone who eats the bread or drinks the cup of the Lord unworthily will be behaving unworthily towards the body and blood of the Lord”(1 Cor.11:26)

    The Eucharist(or as satan’s disciples call it-the ‘pagan mass’)is the presence of Jesus offering himself to his Father.That is,it makes present in a sacramental way Christ’s sacrifice on Calvary.The early Fathers of the Catholic Church,reflecting on St.John,emphasised the blood and water which flowed from the side of Jesus as a symbol of the 2 great sacraments-baptism and the eucharist-by which we share in Christ’s sacrifice and resurrection.

    The Mass is the perfect act of worshipping God for in the Eucharist Jesus Christ is present (as he confirmed himself in Scripture).
    For this reason the Church founded on Peter calls the Eucharist ‘whole and entire,God and man,substantially and permanently’ !!!!!!!
    The “source and summit of the whole of the Church’s worship and of Christian life”.

    To conclude,’grace’is mysterious and therefore difficult to explain in human terms.But when we do have grace,or the divine life,God does live with us.He comes to live within us to begin,in an incomplete way,the possession of Him which we will have in Heaven.Thus (contrary to Alan’s opinion)there is a ‘sharing’of God’s life but that does not make us ‘divine’.

13. @ 1570

    Just want to add to what Bro. Liam pointed out

    John 6:66 From that time many of his disciples went back, and walked no more with him.

    – This happened when they denied Eucharist.

    Look at that number Alan.

    Who deny John 6:57 -58, belong to 666.

    57 As the living Father hath sent me, and I live by the Father: so he that eateth me, even he shall live by me.

    58 This is that bread which came down from heaven: not as your fathers did eat manna, and are dead: he that eateth of this bread shall live for ever.

    Do you also notice how Jesus compared manna and himself as the living bread? Understand that Old Testament is the foreshadow of new testament.

    You deny the authority of Catholic church, but you give authority to yourself saying your interpretations are the one truth. Come on you’ll not find people in your own herd with same interpretation as your own. Are they all satanic? Why don’t you go and speak in their forums?

14. Dear Sharon,

    Nice combination in the context of the text with the figure, the message and the number corresponds each other.Surely this may stirred the hornets nest from Alan’s followers.You have been clearly identified in this text Alan, the text that you have used boomerang to you!

    Ave Maria!

15. #1573 and #1570

    Does eat my flesh and drink my blood = “transubstantiation”?

    You deny the authority of Catholic church, but you give authority to yourself saying your interpretations are the one truth

    I don’t deny the church, but rather the church’s heretical anti-biblical teachings. I haven’t given myself authority, but simply magnify God’s Word affirmed by his absolute faithfulness.

    Psalm 138:2 I will worship toward thy holy temple, and praise thy name for thy lovingkindness and for thy truth: for thou hast magnified thy word above all thy name.

    Psalm 119:105 – Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path.

16. #1573 and #1570

    Psalm 12:6-7 – The words of the LORD are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times. Thou shalt keep them, O LORD, thou shalt preserve them from this generation for ever.

    We need to exalt the Word of God much higher than men-made traditions.

17. Liam (#1558):

    Popes are human like ourselves and can sin.

    Are there you are my friend!! As you have rightly said. Therefore its important to note that we should note follow human interpretation be it from an normal citizen or even the Pope (“el papa”). We need to be like good bereans and check whether whatever the pope declares is in accordance with the scriptures. The scriptures are to be the sole guide to ascertain teachings declared by the human mind that is prone to sin, and full of heresies. Blind obedience is a big “no-no”, even if el-papa declares it. Historically the popes have been proved to be the biggest heretics and bigots themselves and the “stiff” British type upper lip they show themselves a class apart from the rest of humanity. Remember how Jesus rebuked the Pharisees for their “tamasha” always wanting public attraction to their religious overtures. Sort of seeking praises of men.

    Every year we see all heads of world religions including black magicians, sorcerers are invited by the papacy to participate in an ecumenical meet – a camaraderie – type of union at the Vatican at the excuse or pretext of fostering inter-religious dialogue ostensibly for world peace.

    But the book of Revelation clearly identifies that apostate church sitting on 7 hills (BTW Rome sits on the 7 hills) and fornicating with the kings of the earth.

    Rev_17:2 – With whom the kings of the earth have committed fornication, and the inhabitants of the earth have been made drunk with the wine of her fornication.

    Rev_17:4 – And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet colour, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication:

    Rev_18:3 – For all nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, and the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth are waxed rich through the abundance of her delicacies.

18. 1576

    The ordained Priest at Mass pronounces the words of Jesus,”This is my body;this is my blood,” over the bread and wine on the altar.

    At that very announcement the bread and wine cease to exist as Jesus stated it would.In their place is the body and blood,the soul and divinity of Jesus himself.Through the Priest Jesus almighty gives us himself as food as he said he would in Holy Scripture.

    All that remains is the ‘appearance’of ‘bread and wine’.Of course, in time a new word was coined to relate to this mysterious gift and accomplishment of Our Saviour and that term is ‘transubstantiation’.

    Alas, this word met with extreme verbal abuse when it appeared from those who denied the statements of Jesus in Scripture.The term only refers to the miracle of giving himself as authentic food that Jesus emphasised at the Last Supper and indicated elsewhere.

    That is, the scriptural and tradition based belief and teaching of the one and only Church formed by Jesus over the last 2,000 plus years.

    It is not my concoction as my previous contributions were stated to be.It comes from the Word of God (sacred scripture)and has existed for decades upon decades because God’s Church adheres to what he has provided for our salvation. .

19. Vatican publishes rules for verifying Marian apparitions
    — Catholic News Service – dated May 24, 2012

    Source: http://www.catholicnews.com/data/stories/cns/1202151.htm

    This will be some news to those who are blindly following those fake marian apparitions (the work of satan), praying to mary etc., people like Liam, Christine Marie and others, without knowing the official position of Catholic Church on such apparitions. I will have the last laugh :)

    According to the CATHOLIC NEWS SERVICE website has quoted Pope Benedict XVI has reaffirmed that the church never requires the faithful to believe in apparitions, not even those recognized by the church.

    In his note, Cardinal Levada quoted the pope saying “The criterion for judging the truth of a private revelation is its orientation to Christ himself,” in that it doesn’t lead people away from Jesus, but urges them toward closer communion with Christ and the Gospel.

    The cardinal also quoted from the writings of St. John of the Cross, who emphasized that God said everything he had to say in Jesus Christ — in his one and only son and Word.

    “Any person questioning God or desiring some vision or revelation would be guilty not only of foolish behavior but also of offending him, by not fixing his eyes entirely on Christ and by living with the desire for some other novelty,” the saint wrote.

    Church approval of a private revelation, in essence, is just the church’s way of saying the message is not contrary to the faith or morality, it is licit to make the message public “and the faithful are authorized to give to it their prudent adhesion,” the pope said in his 2010 Post-Synodal Apostolic Exhortation, “Verbum Domini” (“The Word of the Lord”).

    I’ve also heard (not verified) that it is not a sin for catholics not to believe in Marian Apparitions, as they are termed as private revelations. So we should stick to the Word of God as our safest shield and be obedient to what Jesus commanded us.

20. 1580

    Well ‘el papa’still fond of making a mockery of the Christian faith.

    I see that you have attempted to convert to ‘holy tradition’by your recent studies.Alas,your acceptance of satanic influence ensured that the truth you discovered would as usual be twisted as your past contributions mainly confirm.

    However,by informing Christians of aspects of their scriptural and traditional based truths you are wasting your time for we already know the truth.

    I agree that we adhere to the teachings of the founder of the Catholic Church such as his guarantee that he would ensure that the Holy Spirit-“will teach you everything and remind you of all I have said to you”(John 14:26).Thus the Catholic Church cannot err in belief when “from Bishops to the last layperson” they show universal agreement in matters of faith and morals.

    Via the Spirit Jesus ensured that the writers of scripture would be reminded of all that he said while on earth.The result- the New Testament.But initially he said “will teach you everything”.Thus guaranteeing the truth and the extreme necessity of ‘tradition’.As scripturally confirmed Jesus ensured that what his Church taught in relation to ‘faith and morals’would be emanating directly from Himself.Thus when the authentic Pope speaks ‘ex cathedra’as the human shepherd and teacher of Christians,he enjoys the infallibility promised by Jesus to his Church-“will teach you everything”.

    Surely such a promise as confirmed by its scripture presence proves without a doubt that there is more to our faith than the recorded reminders of what our Lord said prior to his death.For if all was biblised there would be no need for Jesus to promise that the Holy Spirit “will teach you everything”!!!!!!!

21. @1580,

    Ha, ha, ha!!! Oh my goodness! Please stop quoting words came from standpoint of our church officials, how many times I have proven to you that you always taken out of context every quotation that you extracted as religious instruction for our faithful members. You seem like all knowing, complicating simple instructions which were not complicated at all. Isn’t it funny that you find yourself giving us Catholic instructions you may think we do not know?

    I have a litany of bloopers (ridiculous/stupidity arguments) you have made in this forum and I do not wish to re-visit it and refresh your memory because the second time to remind you would be publicly uncharitable. I ask you do not force me to make fun of your senseless stupidity…it is not worth it to be publicly ridiculed.

    “The joy of the fool lies in doing wrong, but the joy of the man of discernment in acquiring wisdom.” (Prov.10:23)

    Jesus king of mercy I trust in you!

    Ave Maria!

22. 1583

    The words – ‘ex cathedra’ means ‘from the chair’.The latter is the symbol of authority situated in the cathedral and from which the Pope or bishop preaches,teaches and presides at the liturgy.

    It refers to the the ‘chair’ of Peter our 1st Pope and when he teaches infallibly (without mistake) he defines a doctrine concerning faith and morals.This was always the Church’s position and it was reiterated by the 1st Vatican Council held during the 20th century.

    And as we can see it is Scriptural based- “will teach you everthing”.Also from scripture (a reemphasis)- ‘I will give to you the Keys of the Kingdom of Heaven-whatever you bind upon earth will be bound also in heaven,whatever you shall loose upon earth will be loosed also in heaven’.

    Thus,under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit the Church continues to grow,through preaching and discussion,in her understanding of the life and teaching of Jesus as first preached by the apostles and handed down from age to age.

23. #1581, #1582 and #1583:

    You are indeed living in a fantasy world – a world of imaginations. Suddenly we can see flowery sounding words like CO-OPERATOR and personal interpretations.

    Christine marie – you are most welcome to make a public of whatever you want .. it doesn’t affect me. But it will only show that you are that typical empty vessel that gathers no moss. Go take your pick.

    ———-
    Liam #1581

    However,by informing Christians of aspects of their scriptural and traditional based truths you are wasting your time for we already know the truth.

    No you do not know the truth. You are concocting your own theories. And wow ! suddenly you are now appropriating the word “christian” when Roman Church is not even christian. If you claim you know the truth – be aware you are fooled into believing those false lies. Peter was never the first pope and you have not been able to prove that but are only hearing what the RC church falsely teaches.

    I am glad to abide in the true living biblical Jesus and Mary of the scriptures and not the satan’s counterfeits in the RC Church.

24. Liam #1579:

    Ok.. since you say Catholics take Jesus as literal eat my flesh and drink my blood.

    But Jesus never said the bread and wine would turn into his flesh and blood. Also he never said that priests have been bestowed with ‘hocus-pocus” special type magical powers to turn the bread and wine into his flesh and blood – so why you don’t take the words of Jesus he did not say as “literal”??

    Why did the crowd depart from him when he told them to eat my flesh and blood? Was it repulsive to them and they thought he was insane. Unless you are a cannibal – if someone on the street told you to eat his flesh and drink his blood? Would you think that the person is insane and mentally sick? Or you would literally do the act.

    Do you know why those who departed from Jesus did not accept his offer to eat his flesh and blood.., because the were “spiritually” discerned, they did not understand the deep things of God just like you and the rest and they could not understand the divine things of God. They understood it from a human earthly level and not at the spiritual level. The Catholic understanding too is at the human level. look at the below verse. What does it tell you what Jesus meant?

    John 3:12 If I have told you earthly things, and ye believe not, how shall ye believe, if I tell you of heavenly things?

    Ok still even if the crowd understood Jesus, why didn’t they at that moment jump on him, kill him, eat his flesh and drink his blood to get eternal life? What would be the consequences had they to kill Jesus. Would they be prosecuted for murder?

25. Proof texts of Peter being the first Pope REFUTED!

    1. “I also say to you that you are Peter, and upon this rock I will build My church; and the gates of Hades will not overpower it. Matthew 16:18
    The church is built upon Jesus Christ: 1 Cor 3:11, not Peter. Although this is appealed to as a papal proof text, it is lacking of any such proof.

    2. “Simon, Simon, behold, Satan has demanded permission to sift you like wheat; but I have prayed for you, that your faith may not fail; and you, when once you have turned again, strengthen your brothers.” Luke 22:31-32
    This verse simply cannot be used to prove the papal infallibility of Peter because Peter erred so bad later in his ministry, that Paul condemned him as a heretic: Gal 2:11

    3. “I have many more things to say to you, but you cannot bear them now. “But when He, the Spirit of truth, comes, He will guide you into all the truth; for He will not speak on His own initiative, but whatever He hears, He will speak; and He will disclose to you what is to come. John 16:12-13
    Yes Peter was inspired by the Holy Spirit to proclaim the word of God, but so were the rest of the apostles. Peter is not given any special status and the promise of the Holy Spirit applies equally to all the apostles.

    4. So when they had finished breakfast, Jesus said to Simon Peter, “Simon, son of John, do you love Me more than these?” He said to Him, “Yes, Lord; You know that I love You.” He said to him, “Tend My lambs.” He said to him again a second time, “Simon, son of John, do you love Me?” He said to Him, “Yes, Lord; You know that I love You.” He said to him, “Shepherd My sheep.” He said to him the third time, “Simon, son of John, do you love Me?” Peter was grieved because He said to him the third time, “Do you love Me?” And he said to Him, “Lord, You know all things; You know that I love You.” Jesus said to him, “Tend My sheep. John 21:15-17
    To suggest this proves Peter is a pope is short sighted. Jesus was reversing, by ceremony, the three denials of Peter with three confessions of faith. Three times Peter denied the Lord, and three time Peter was asked to proclaim his love for the Lord. The emphasis was not on Peter “leading the church as a pope” being promoted to “top position” but rather accepting him back from the realm of condemnation into the common fold of the apostles who had not denied the Lord. Peter was told to be a shepherd of the sheep not a pope. Peter was simply a presbyter/overseer/shepherd: “Therefore, I exhort the elders among you, as your fellow elder and witness of the sufferings of Christ, and a partaker also of the glory that is to be revealed, shepherd the flock of God among you, exercising oversight not under compulsion, but voluntarily, according to the will of God; and not for sordid gain, but with eagerness; nor yet as lording it over those allotted to your charge, but proving to be examples to the flock. And when the Chief Shepherd appears, you will receive the unfading crown of glory.” (1 Peter 5:1-4) Notice that this verse is a commentary on Jn 21 because it shows Peter to be a common “pastor/shepherd” as were in all the churches. Contrary to Catholic theology, Peter describes himself as a “fellow-shepherd” on an equal level with other fellow elders. The chief shepherd is Jesus not Peter.

    5. Jerusalem council: Acts 15:6-29
    The Jerusalem council provides absolutely no help to the Roman Catholic for the papal authority of Peter and the supremacy of the church at Rome. The council happens in Jerusalem, not Rome! Even if this council had happened at Rome, Peter was not the key note speaker, but one of four who are highlighted. In fact, James was the speaker who not only summed it all up, but concluded the meeting with “his personal judgement” on the matter. (v19) The inspired letter that was sent out to other churches (v23-29) made no mention of Peter at all: “The apostles and the brethren who are elders” v23. If Peter was the Pope, there was no indication in the Jerusalem council of such authority!

    6. But even if we, or an angel from heaven, should preach to you a gospel contrary to what we have preached to you, he is to be accursed! As we have said before, so I say again now, if any man is preaching to you a gospel contrary to what you received, he is to be accursed! Galatians 1:8-9
    Yes the words of all the apostles were unchangeable. The only known record of what the apostles said, is in the 27 books of the New Testament. Oral tradition is full of contradiction. Take for example, the liturgy of the Lord’s Supper or the date of Easter. The Oral traditions of the Roman Catholic and Orthodox churches contradict each other so bad, they condemn each other and are not “in communion” with each other. The key is to realize that both of these denominations base their teachings on the oral tradition of the apostles, yet the cannot agree! We are confused over the contradictory doctrine of the Catholics and Orthodox church! Whose oral tradition on the liturgy of the Eucharist and the date of Easter is correct? With all this division, it is obvious that scripture is the only sure method of determining truth.

    7. but in case I am delayed, I write so that you will know how one ought to conduct himself in the household of God, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and support of the truth. 1 Timothy 3:15
    The church that supports and upholds the truth, is distinguished from the truth she upholds. That truth is the gospel message contained in scripture. If the “church” is the source of truth, as both Roman Catholic and Orthodox churches claim, again we ask, which one, for they are divided against themselves in doctrine! obviously then, the traditionalist interpretation of this passage is as vacuous as it is illogical.

26. 1585
    You are simply calling Jesus a liar.Being God he could do anything including giving himself as -the Bread of Life.

    Your position is satanic hypocricy for you put so much weight upon Holy Scripture
    and then deny the truth of Scripture because of your own personal interpretation or dislike.

    1586

    Just like your protestant forebears the Orthodox broke away from the Church established by Jesus.

    Can you not understand simple Scripture-
    “I also say to you that you are Peter, and upon this rock I will build My church; and the gates of Hades will not overpower it.” Matthew 16:18.

    Here Jesus clearly states that he will build HIS Church on PETER-THE ROCK.Please reflect upon Our Lord’s guarantee that the gates of hades would not overpower it.That assurance was given over 2,000 years ago and the Catholic Church inspite of all satanic opposition still prevails.And WHY-because the Body of Christ will never be conquered.

    As for yourself I suggest based upon your hatred of Christ(for the Catholic Church is His Body)and his Mother,Mary,that you return through the gates of hades.

    I can debate with a person who loves but you are far removed from Love who is God as your contributions reveal.In fact I believe,also,that you have set out to degrade and destroy this beautiful Christian internet site.In fact this section has departed from the original question of its origin and is being used by the likes of you to destroy the Church of God.

27. Liam (#1587):

    what bible version do you refer to? The GOOD NEWS BIBLE, the JERUSALEM BIBLE?

    Also if you are sincere and knowledgeable catholic, please educate me on the MASS exactly as taught in the Catechism of the Catholic Church – the official teachings. I do not need interpretation from scripture of the Bible. Quote me the exact para numbers in listed under.

28. Liam #1587:

    In fact I believe,also,that you have set out to degrade and destroy this beautiful Christian internet site.

    I have a burden to see souls getting saved to be with them in heaven. Do you have that burden or are you simply swimming in the seducing music the devils is playing for your itching ears hear? I know i might befriend many, but well…if its the truth, i will never compromise – I can’t help it, even if people this i am foolish or insane. There is no hatred for my catholic brothers and sisters, but the hatred toward the false teachings. Are you not concern about the eternal destination of your soul?

29. 1588
    The one and only Bible whose Christian New Testament was written by members of and confirmed by the Catholic Church of Christ.

    The Mass is based upon our lord Jesus for it is his sacrifice and his food given by him to us for our eternal salvation.The latter is based upon a statement by Our Saviour in the New Testament.

    I thought that you were a scripture man only!The teaching of the origins of the Mass are in scripture and it occurs every day because Jesus willed it.

    1589
    As a committeed member of the only Church of Christ I have no worries!My Saviour whom I receive at Holy Mass is the Food of my salvation. My prayer is for the salvation of fellow humanity.A salvation for all inspite of some peddling beyond the gate of hades because of satanic intrigue.

30. Liam #1590:

    You have not answered my questions raised at #1588. What you are explaining to me is your private interpretation. I said i want to know what the Catechism teaches of the Mass and not from scripture. If you don’t know then simply acknowledge truthfully your ignorance and simply say to me that you will try your level best to provide me the official teaching. Do you know it? Yes or No?

    The one and only Bible whose Christian New Testament was written by members of and confirmed by the Catholic Church of Christ.

    So which is it? There are several of them floating around. If you don’t know.. either you’re pretending and trying to make a fool of others and you are simply in the dark. There are many bible manuscripts that have been discovered and many translations have emnated from them. If you cannot provide the answer that let everyone reading this website know the ignorance you are living in. The darkness that has covered your eyes by the apostate RC Church.

31. Liam #1590:
    As a committeed member of the only Church of Christ I have no worries!My Saviour whom I receive at Holy Mass is the Food of my salvation. My prayer is for the salvation of fellow humanity.

    Does the RC Church give you absolute assurance of salvation? The Bible doesn’t say that you can get to heaven by being member of a church or eating Jesus at Holy Mass. You are preaching a false gospel that is not of Jesus but a counterfeit. So what does the Bible say about going to heaven? And why should God allow you into heaven? Why will people to hell? Does the bible say that salvation is found by eating Jesus as food at Mass?

    Remember, Christianity believes in only one God manifested in 3 persons (God the Father, God the Son – Jesus, God the Holy Spirit – also called the TRINITY). Christianity is monotheistic as opposed to other religions that believe in many God’s – also called “pantheism”. Do you agree?

32. Liam #1590:

    Is Jesus the only Way to the Father, or are Moslems, who have rejected the deity of Christ, part of God’s plan of salvation?

33. Another Jesus
    Written by Mike Gendron.
    Is the Jesus of the Roman Catholic Church the biblical Jesus? Knowing and believing the real Jesus is critical because Jesus said, “If you do not believe that I am the one I claim to be, you will indeed die in your sins” (John 8:24). A different Jesus is preached by many deceivers (2 Corinthians 11:3-4) who deny His finished work of redemption.

    The Mormons preach Jesus is the brother of Lucifer and was a man who became God. The Jehovah Witnesses preach Jesus was not God but claim he was Michael the arch angel. Roman Catholicism preaches a Jesus that was unable to purge all sin or pay the complete penalty for sin.

    The Biblical Jesus assures Christians they have been saved from condemnation. “Now that we have been justified by His blood, it is all the more certain that we shall be saved by Him from God’s wrath” (Roman 5:9). The one time, perfect and all sufficient sacrifice of Jesus completely satisfied the wrath of God (1 John 2:2). Roman Catholicism denies this fundamental teaching and deceives its people into believing that the sacrifice of the Mass satisfied God’s wrath not only for the sins of the living but also for the sins of the dead (Canon 3, Council of Trent). Catholics are cursed with anathema by their church if they claim they are saved from God’s wrath, (Canon 30, Council of Trent). Catholics know Jesus only as a “gate opener” to heaven. For Catholics to go through the gates of heaven they must save themselves through the Mass and sacraments.

    The Jesus of the Bible expiates sin. “Through His blood, God made Him the means of the expiation for all who believe” (Roman 3:25). Yet the Catholic Church teaches Catholics must expiate their own sins. “This may be done through the sorrows, miseries and trials of this life and, above all, through death. Otherwise the expiation must be made in the next life through fire and torments of purifying punishments” (Vatican Council II).

    The Jesus of the Bible is the only mediator between God and man (I Timothy 2:15), yet the Roman Catholic Church offers Mary as the mediator. Pope Pius IX proclaimed that “God has committed to Mary the treasury of all good things, in order that everyone may know that through her are obtained every hope, every grace, and all salvation. For this is His will: that we obtain everything through Mary.”

    So why does the Roman Catholic Church hide the real Jesus from its followers? Because the real Jesus sets people free! In contrast, the Roman Catholic Church maintains control of its people through legalistic rituals, sacraments and threats of anathema’s. The biblical Jesus saves believers from the bondage of sin, deception and religion.

34. THE SALVATION OF THE WORLD IN MARY
    July 4, 1943

    Jesus says:
    “The Eucharist is my Blood and my Body. But have you ever considered this Blood and this Body have been formed with the blood and the milk of Mary?”

    “She, the Most Pure One who received Heaven into her womb, clothing in her flesh of immaculate whiteness the Word of the Father after the divine marriage with the Holy Spirit, did not limit herself to giving birth to the Savior. She nourished Him with her milk. In such a way that you, men that feed on Me, suck the milk of Mary which became blood in Me.”

    “The virginal milk. How, then, can you so often remain slaves to the flesh if this immaculate milk descends into you, along with My Blood? It is as if a fountain of heavenly purity poured its waves into you. And are you not left cleansed by it? How can you fail to be when the milk of the Virgin and the Blood of the Redeemer are circulating in you? When you approach my Table it is as if you were bringing your mouths up to the Mother’s most chaste breast.”

    “Consider this, children who do not love Us very much. I am happy over your sucking from that breast from which I have drawn nourishment. But I would like life to increase in you, as in babies fed at a breast; I would like you to grow and be fortified. A wet-nurse’s milk transfuses moral tendencies in addition to material life. How can you, nourished at that most pure breast, not take on a spiritual likeness to Mary? She clasps you to her breast—as mal-nourished, sick, and unwashed as you are. And She cleanses you, nourishes you, and takes you to her First-Born Son, for She wants you to love Him.”

    “If it were not for the care of Mary, for the prayers of Mary, the human race would no longer exist. I would have annulled it, for your way of life has truly touched the depths of Evil and Justice is wounded and Patience has passed all limits and Punishment is at the ready. But Mary is there, sheltering you under her mantle, and if, with a mere gaze, I can bring Paradise to its knees and make the stars tremble, I can do nothing against my Mother.”

    “I am her God, but I am always her Baby. I rested on that Heart in the first sleep of infancy and in the last one of death, and I know all the secrets of that Heart. I know, then, that to punish you would mean giving the Mother of the human race, the true Mother, a stabbing pain, for She always hopes She can lead you to her Son.

    “I am her God, but She is my Mother. And I, perfect in everything am your Master in this, too—in love for the Mother. To those in the world who still believe I say, ‘The salvation of the world is in Mary.”

    “If you knew how God is withdrawing into the depths, in the face of the ever-mounting tide of crimes that you commit—you that are deicides, you that are fratricides, you that break the law, you that are fornicators, you that are adulterers, you that are thieves, you that are a den of vice—you would tremble. But you have turned into fools.”

    “Previously it was I that was the bridge between the world and Heaven. But truly, in the face of your obstinacy in Evil, the Christ is withdrawing, as He once withdrew from Jerusalem, for ‘the hour has not yet come,’ and the Christ, awaiting the hour; is leaving you to your Evil so that you may do it. ”

    “Now, Mary is the only bridge left. But if you disdain Her, too, you shall be crushed. I do not allow the Woman upon whom the Holy Spirit descended to conceive Me, the Son of God and the Savior of the world, to be disparaged.”

35. TO GAZE AT THE SOFT LIGHT OF MARY
    June 27, 1943

    Jesus says:

    “The human eye cannot stare at the sun, whereas it can look at the moon. The soul’s eye cannot stare at God’s perfection as it is. But it can look at the perfection of Mary.”

    “Mary is like the moon as compared to the sun. She is illuminated by Him and reflects the light which has illuminated Her upon you, but sweetening it with those mystical mists making it bearable for your limited nature. This is why I have been proposing Her to you for centuries as a model for all of you whom I have wanted as my brothers and sisters, precisely in Mary.”

    “She is the Mother. What sweetness for the children to look at their mother! I have given Her to you for this reason, so that you should have a sweet Majesty whose splendor was sufficient to enrapture you, but not to blind you. Only to special souls that I have chosen for motives beyond question have I shown Myself, in my brilliance as the God-Man, with absolute Intelligence and Perfection. But, together with that gift, I have had to give them another which made them capable of bearing the knowledge of Me without being annihilated by it.”

    “Whereas all of you can look at Mary. Not because She is like you. Oh no! Her purity is so lofty that I, her Son and God, treat Her with veneration. Her perfection is such that all of Paradise bows to her throne, upon which the eternal smile and the eternal splendor of Our Trinity descends. But this splendor, which penetrates and deifies Her more than every other creature, is suffused with the extremely white veils of her immaculate flesh, through which She shines like a star, gathering in all of God’s light and spreading it as a soft brightness over all creatures.”

    “And, furthermore, She is the Mother eternally. And She has all the mercies of the Mother excusing you, interceding, and patiently instructing. Mary’s joy is great when She can say to someone who loves Her, ‘Love my Son.’ My joy is great when I can say to someone who loves Me, ‘Love my Mother.’ And our joy is very great when we see that one of you, abandoning my feet, goes to Mary, or, abandoning Mary’s lap, comes towards Me. For the Mother rejoices in giving the Son others filled with love and the Son rejoices in seeing the Mother loved by others. Our glory does not seek to impose itself but is completed in the glory of another.”

    “I thus say to you, ‘Love Mary. I give you to Her, who loves you and will illuminate you solely with the softness of her smile.”

36. Mary as the Ciborium of Jesus’ Heart

    June 23, 1943
    9:10 a.m.

    Jesus says:
    “In the other Eucharistic encounter I showed you what the Eucharist is. Today I will show you another Eucharistic truth. If the Eucharist is the heart of God, Mary is the ciborium of that Heart.”

    “Look at my Mother, the eternal living ciborium into whom the Bread coming from Heaven descended. Whoever wants to find Me – find Me, that is, with a fullness of gifts – must seek my Majesty and Power, my Divinity, in the sweetness, purity, and charity of Mary. It is She who makes her heart the ciborium for the heart of her and your God.”

    “The Body of the Lord became a body in Mary’s womb, and it is my Mother who with a smile offers it to you as if She were offering you her most beloved Baby, placed in the cradle of her most pure, motherly heart. It is Mary’s joy, in Heaven, to give you her Son and her Lord. With the Son She gives you her unstained heart, that heart which has loved and suffered boundlessly.”

    “There is a widespread opinion that my Mother suffered only morally. No. The Mother of mortals experienced every kind of pain. Not because She deserved to. She was immaculate, and the pain-inducing inheritance of Adam was not in Her. But because, as the Co-Redeemer and Mother of the whole human race, She had to consummate the Sacrifice to the very depth and in all forms. She thus suffered, as a woman, the inevitable sufferings of a woman who conceives a child; She suffered weariness in the flesh burdened with my weight; She suffered in giving birth to Me; She suffered in the hasty flight; She suffered a lack of food; She suffered heat, cold, thirst, hunger, poverty, and weariness. Why should She not have suffered if I, the Son of God, was subject to the sufferings proper to mankind?”

    “To be saints does not mean to be exempt from the deprivations of matter. To be redeemers, moreover; means to be particularly subject in the deprivations of the flesh, which is sensitive to pain. Holiness and redemption are carried out and reached by all means, even by way of toothaches, for instance. It suffices for the creature to make fleshly deprivations a weapon for merit and not for sin.”
    “Mary and I made all the deprivations of human nature into weights for your redemption. Even now my Mother suffers when she sees you so deaf to grace and rebellious towards Me. Holiness, I repeat, does not mean exclusion from pain, but rather the imposition of pain.”

    “Thank Mary, then, who gives Me with the smile of a mother, for all the pain which being my Mother has brought Her. You never think of thanking Mary, in whose womb I became flesh! This Flesh which I now give you to nourish you for eternal life.”

    ‘Enough. Contemplate and adore Me, radiant in the Eucharist, on the living throne which is the breast of Mary, my most pure Mother and yours.”

37. Eucharistic Union with Christ As Seen In Mary
    June 19, 1943

    Jesus says:
    “To obtain real fruits from the Eucharist, it must not be considered as an episode repeated at more or less distant points in time, but must be made the basic thought in life.”

    “To live thinking of Me-as-Eucharist, who hasten to come or have come into you, making the encounter a continuous present which lasts as long as your lives. Not to separate oneself in spirit from Me, to act in the ray issuing forth from the Eucharist, never to go outside its orbit, like planets revolving around the sun and living by its splendor.”

    “Here, too, I propose Mary as a model for you. Her union with Me must be the model for your union with Me. The life of Mary, my Mother, was entirely Eucharistic. The life of Maria, the little victim, must be entirely Eucharistic.”

    “If Eucharist means communion, Mary lived Eucharistically nearly all her life. For I was in my Mother before being in the world as a man. Nor, when I was no longer a man in the world, did I cease to be in Her. We have never separated since the moment when obedience was sanctified up to the height of God and I became flesh in her womb, so pure that the angels are less pure in comparison, so holy that no ciborium receiving Me has such holiness.”

    “Only in the breast of God is there a perfection of holiness greater than that of Mary. After the Triune God, She is the Holy of Holies.”
    “If it were granted to you mortals to see the beauty of Mary as it is, you would remain enraptured and sanctified by it. There is no comparison in the universe that serves to tell you what my Mother is. Be holy, and you will see Her.”

    “And if to see God is the joy of the blessed, to see Mary is the joy of all Paradise. For in Her not only do the angelical choirs, and the hosts of Saints take delight, but the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit contemplate Her as the most beautiful work of their Trinity of love.”

    “The two of us have never separated. She aspired to Me with all the strength of her virginal, immaculate heart awaiting the promised Messiah. The purest communion of desire which attracted Me from the depths of Heaven. -More lively communion from the time of the blessed annunciation until the hour of death on the Cross.”

    “Our spirits were always united by love. Most intense communion of love and immense pain during my martyrdom and in the days of my burial. Eucharistic communion after the glorious Resurrection and Ascension until the Assumption, which was eternal union of the most pure Mother with her Divine Son.”

    “Mary was the perfect Eucharistic soul. She was able to entertain her God with ardent love, superangelical purity, and continuous worship . How could I separate from that heart that was living by Me? I remained even after the consummation of the species.”

    “The words spoken to my Mother in the thirty-three years in which I was her son on earth are nothing in comparison to the conversations which I-as-Eucharist had with Her-as-Ciborium. But those words are too divine and too pure for the mind of man to be able to know and for man’s lips to repeat. In the Temple of Jerusalem only the Priest went into the Holy of Holies, where the Ark of the Lord was. But in the Temple of the Heavenly Jerusalem only I, God, go in and know the secrets of the Most Holy Ark that is Mary my Mother.”

    ‘Strive to imitate Mary. And, since it is something too arduous, ask Mary to help you. What is impossible for man is possible for God – extremely possible, moreover; if asked for in Mary, with Mary, and through Mary.”

38. The Roman Catholic Mass

    The Lord Jesus said, “Unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink His blood you have no life In you.” Was Jesus speaking literally or figuratively? The Roman Catholic Church teaches His Words are literal. Their literal interpretation is the foundation for its doctrine of transubstantiation — the “miraculous” changing of bread and wine into the living Christ, His body and blood, soul and divinity. Each Catholic priest is said to have the power to call Jesus down from heaven when he whispers over the wafer, “Hoc corpus meus est.” Catholics believe they are actually eating and drinking the living body and blood of Jesus Christ when they consume the lifeless wafer. This is a vital and important requirement in their salvation and a doctrine they must believe and accept to remain a Catholic.

    If priests indeed have the power to change bread and wine into the body and blood of the glorified Christ, and if indeed consuming His body and blood is necessary for salvation, then the whole world must become Catholic to escape the wrath of God. On the other hand, if Jesus was speaking in figurative language then the Eucharist becomes the most blasphemous and deceptive hoax any religion could impose on its people. There is no middle ground.

    Catholics need to know that Jesus used figurative language when He spoke to the Jewish multitude in this sixth chapter of John. There are at least seven convincing reasons why this passage must be taken figuratively.

    Drinking Blood Forbidden

    The Law of Moses strictly forbade Jews from drinking blood (Leviticus 17:10-14) A literal interpretation to drink blood would mean Jesus was teaching the Jews to disobey the Mosaic Law. This would have been enough cause for them to persecute Jesus. (See John 5:16)

    Biblical Disharmony

    If John 6:53 is interpreted literally, it is in disharmony with the rest of the Bible. Eating the flesh and drinking the blood of Christ for eternal life adds another requirement to the Gospel of grace. Furthermore, it gives no hope of eternal life to any Christian who does not consume the body and blood of Christ. A literal translation of this verse would oppose hundreds of Scriptures that declare justification and salvation are by grace through faith alone in Christ.

    Unexplainable Dilemma

    Since the “eating and drinking” in verse 6:54 and the “believing” in verse 6:40 produce the same result – eternal life we have an unexplainable dilemma if both are taken literally. What if a person “believes” but does not “eat or drink”? Or what if a person “eats and drinks” but does not “believe?” This could happen any time a non-believer walked into a Catholic Church and received the Eucharist. Does this person have eternal life because he met one of the requirements but not the other? The only possible way to harmonize these two verses is to accept one verse as figurative and one as literal.

    Eating and Drinking Can Be Figurative

    The Jews were familiar with the use of the figurative language of “eating and drinking” in the Old Testament to describe the appropriation of divine blessings to one’s innermost being. It was God’s way of providing spiritual nourishment for the soul. (See Jeremiah 15:16 and Ezekiel 2:8, 3:1)

    Jesus Confirmed His Use of Figurative Language

    Jesus informed His disciples there were times when He spoke figuratively to impart spiritual truths (John 16:25). He often used that type of language to describe Himself. The Gospel of John records seven figurative declarations Jesus made of Himself — “the bread of life” (6:48), “the light of the world” (8:12), “the door” (10:9), “the good shepherd” (10:11), “the resurrection and the life” (11:25), “the way, the truth and the life” (14:6), and “the true vine” (15:1). He also referred to His body as the temple (2:19). When speaking to a mixed crowd of believers and unbelievers, Jesus used parables (figurative language) so that unbelievers could not understand the mysteries of heaven which were not granted to them (Mat. 13:10-17). The reason the multitude were seeking after Jesus was because they wanted more physical food (John 6:26). Jesus was offering them spiritual food (John 6:32-33). As believers partake of Jesus, He will abide in them (John 6:53). They will never hunger or thirst. Clearly this is in a figurative sense (John 6:35). As the good shepherd, He feeds His people knowledge and understanding of Himself (Jer. 3:15).

    His Words Were Spiritual

    Jesus ended this teaching by revealing “the words I have spoken to you are spirit” (6:63). As with each of the seven miracles in John’s Gospel, Jesus uses the miracle to convey a spiritual truth. Here Jesus has just multiplied the loaves and fish and uses a human analogy to teach the necessity of spiritual nourishment. This is consistent with His teaching on how we are to worship God. “God is Spirit and His worshippers must worship in spirit and in truth” (John 4:24). As we worship Christ He is present spiritually, not physically. In fact, Jesus can only be bodily present at one place at one time. His omnipresence refers only to His spirit. It is impossible for Christ to be bodily present in thousands of Catholic Churches around the world.

    A Counterfeit Miracle?

    There is no Biblical precedent where something supernatural occurred where the outward evidence indicated no miracle had taken place. (The wafer and wine look, taste and feel the same before and after the supposed miracle of transubstantion). When Jesus changed water into wine, all the elements of water changed into the actual elements of wine.

    Conclusion

    The 6th chapter of John took place three years before the Last Supper. If the Words of Christ were taken literally, why didn’t people start gnawing on His flesh after this teaching? The ones who departed from Jesus were unbelievers (6:36) who had followed him to Capernaum for another free lunch (6:26). When Jesus offered Himself as “spiritual” food they were not interested (6:63). Those who ate of the spiritual food for eternal life were believers (6:40) and remained with Jesus. He had the words [not the flesh] of eternal life (6:68). Catholics need to know that when Jesus is received spiritually, one time in the heart, there is no need to receive him physically, over and over again in the stomach. Anyone who believes they are literally eating Jesus is absurd and cannibalistic.

    At the Last Supper Jesus asked believers to remember Him until He comes again. Why do Catholics remember Him if they believe He has come again the Eucharist. “For I [Paul] received from the Lord that which I also delivered to you, that the Lord Jesus in the night in which He was betrayed took bread; and when He had given thanks, He broke it, and said, “This is My body, which is for you; do this in remembrance of Me.” In the same way He took the cup also, after supper, saying, “This cup is the new covenant in My blood; do this, as often as you drink it, in remembrance of Me.” For as often as you eat this bread and drink the cup, you proclaim the Lord’s death until He comes” (1 Cor. 11:23-26). If transubstantiation were true and Jesus is indeed physically present, why would He ask us to remember Him. Furthermore, God does not dwell in Catholic tabernacles made with human hands (Acts 7:48).

    For all Christians, the only way to receive Jesus is spiritually by faith John 1:12-13).

39. #1586: With the title; Proof texts of Peter being the first Pope REFUTED!

    I am really quite amused of the letter writer using Gal.2:11; he was really trying hard twisting what is a straight forward verse of the chapter. And by doing, I likened him to a broken record because I have already explained this in my response #1426, with the heading “Apostolic succession and the primacy of Rome Bishops.” He had intentionally deleted three verses (from 14 down 11) to hide his repeated argument that have long been refuted. Before it was “Rumba” now it was “Cha-Cha” but the same Latino rhythmic dance. Maybe he was trying to convince himself that all along his interpretation is precise and absolute. Well, we will check his statement how correct his interpretation was;

    And I quote, “This verse simply cannot be used to prove the papal infallibility of Peter because Peter erred so bad later in his ministry, that Paul condemned him as a heretic: Gal 2:11” This is a clear manifestation that the writer can be seriously experiencing disturbed mindset.

    Did Paul condemn Peter a heretic? Or was it only his interpretation? If he can supply a single verse to justify his malicious imputation I shall be glad to praise him high as high the mountain of Everest. This assumption is unfounded and without bases at all. Why? By not including the upper verses of the text which the writer intentionally omitted is tantamount to suppressing evidence to cover the exact meaning of the text. Gal.2:11; “When Cephas came to Antioch, however, I opposed him to his face, since he was manifestly in the wrong.” 12.) “His (Peter) ‘CUSTOM HAD BEEN TO EAT WITH THE PAGANS’ but after certain friends of James arrived ‘HE STOPPED DOING THIS AND KEPT AWAY FROM THEM’ altogether for fear of the group that insisted on circumcision. 13.) The other Jews joined him in this pretense, and even Barnabas felt himself obliged to copy their behavior.” Now the question??? Is eating with the pagans a doctrinal matter? Of course not! Or is Paul referring to the group that insisted circumcision when he opposed Cephas? Of course not! Because, primarily the text (vv.12; eat with the pagans) is self explanatory and the issue of the group that insisted in circumcision is secondary. It will be absurd for Paul to implicate certain friends of James who had just arrived who believe in ‘order to be saved circumcision is essential.’ And to prove this point, vv.13, explained it further “and even Barnabas felt himself obliged to copy their behavior.” So, what Paul was really referring to was the “BEHAVIOR”, eat with the pagans and not on doctrinal decree which had already been decreed and settled in Acts 15:5-21:

    5 Then some of the believers who belonged to the party of the Pharisees stood up and said, “The Gentiles must be circumcised and required to keep the law of Moses.”
    6 The apostles and elders met to consider this question. 7 After much discussion, Peter got up and addressed them: “Brothers, you know that some time ago God made a choice among you that the Gentiles might hear from my lips the message of the gospel and believe. 8 God, who knows the heart, showed that he accepted them by giving the Holy Spirit to them, just as he did to us. 9 He did not discriminate between us and them, for he purified their hearts by faith. 10 Now then, why do you try to test God by putting on the necks of Gentiles a yoke that neither we nor our ancestors have been able to bear? 11 No! We believe it is through the grace of our Lord Jesus that we are saved, just as they are.”
    12 The whole assembly became silent as they listened to Barnabas and Paul telling about the signs and wonders God had done among the Gentiles through them. 13 When they finished, James spoke up. “Brothers,” he said, “listen to me.14 Simon[a] has described to us how God first intervened to choose a people for his name from the Gentiles. 15 The words of the prophets are in agreement with this, as it is written:
    16 “‘After this I will return
    and rebuild David’s fallen tent.
    Its ruins I will rebuild,
    and I will restore it,
    17 that the rest of mankind may seek the Lord,
    even all the Gentiles who bear my name,
    says the Lord, who does these things’[b]—
    18 things known from long ago.[c]
    19 “It is my judgment, therefore, that we should not make it difficult for the Gentiles who are turning to God. 20 Instead we should write to them, telling them to abstain from food polluted by idols, from sexual immorality, from the meat of strangled animals and from blood. 21 For the law of Moses has been preached in every city from the earliest times and is read in the synagogues on every Sabbath.”

    Proof of Petrine Primacy: (listed below)

    1. Matthew 16:18: “And I tell you, you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church; and the powers of death shall not prevail against it.” The rock (Greek, petra) referred to here is St. Peter himself, not his faith or Jesus Christ. Christ appears here not as the foundation, but as the architect who “builds.” The Church is built, not on confessions, but on confessors – living men (see, e.g., 1 Pet 2:5). Peter alone among the apostles receives a new name, Rock, solemnly conferred (Jn 1:42; Mt 16:18).
    2. Matthew 16:19 “I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven . . .”
    The “power of the keys” has to do with ecclesiastical discipline and administrative authority with regard to the requirements of the faith, as in Isaiah 22:22 (cf. Is 9:6; Job 12:14; Rev 3:7).
    3. Matthew 16:19 “. . . whatever you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.”
    “Binding” and “loosing” were technical rabbinical terms, which meant to “forbid” and “permit” with reference to the interpretation of the law, and secondarily to “condemn” or “place under the ban” or “acquit.”
    4. Peter alone among the apostles is mentioned by name as having been prayed for by Jesus Christ in order that his “faith may not fail” (Lk 22:32).
    5. Peter first confesses Christ’s divinity (Mt 16:16).
    6. Peter alone is told that he has received divine knowledge by a special revelation (Mt 16:17).
    7. Christ teaches from Peter’s boat, and the miraculous catch of fish follows (Lk 5:1-11): perhaps a metaphor for the pope as a “fisher of men” (cf. Mt 4:19).
    8. Peter is specified by an angel as the leader and representative of the apostles (Mk 16:7).
    9. Peter leads the apostles in fishing (Jn 21:2-3,11). The “bark” (boat) of Peter has been regarded by Catholics as a figure of the Church, with Peter at the helm.
    10. Peter’s words are the first recorded and most important in the upper room before Pentecost (Acts 1:15-22).
    11. Peter takes the lead in calling for a replacement for Judas (Acts 1:22).
    12. Peter is the first person to speak (and only one recorded) after Pentecost, so he was the first Christian to “preach the gospel” in the Church era (Acts 2:14-36).
    13. Peter works the first miracle of the Church Age, healing a lame man (Acts 3:6-12).
    14. Peter is the first person after Christ to raise the dead (Acts 9:40).
    15. Cornelius is told by an angel to seek out Peter for instruction in Christianity (Acts 10:1-6).
    16. The whole Church (strongly implied) offers “earnest prayer” for Peter when he is imprisoned (Acts 12:5).
    17. The whole Church (strongly implied) offers “earnest prayer” for Peter when he is imprisoned (Acts 12:5).
    18. Peter was the first traveling missionary, and first exercised what would now be called “visitation of the churches” (Acts 9:32-38,43). Paul preached at Damascus immediately after his conversion (Acts 9:20), but hadn’t traveled there for that purpose (God changed his plans!). His missionary journeys begin in Acts 13:2.
    19. Paul went to Jerusalem specifically to see Peter for fifteen days in the beginning of his ministry (Gal 1:18), and was commissioned by Peter, James and John (Gal 2:9) to preach to the Gentiles.
    20. Peter acts, by strong implication, as the chief bishop/shepherd of the Church (1 Pet 5:1), since he exhorts all the other bishops, or “elders.”
    21. Peter interprets prophecy (2 Pet 1:16-21).
    22. Peter corrects those who misuse Paul’s writings (2 Pet 3:15-16).
    23. Peter was the first to speak and presided/co-presenter the council of Jerusalem (Acts 15:7) with James the Bishop of Jerusalem concluding with Peter’s agenda. The whole church’ engaged in the decision-making and suggestively Peter at the helm.

    24. Lastly, Peter acts, by strong implication, as the chief bishop/shepherd of the Church (1 Pet 5:1-4), since he exhorts all the other bishops, or “elders.”

    In conclusion Peter’s role as shepherd of the sheep (John 21:15-17); Feed my lambs, look after my sheep, and feed my sheep was very evident in the Bible.

    Quotation extracted from item 3, last paragraph, “Peter is not given any special status and the promise of the Holy Spirit applies equally to all the apostles.”This statement is obscure there was no direct path of application of what he was driving at, but still I will reply in the context of his message.

    Peter’s name is mentioned more often than all the other disciples put together: 191 times (162 as Peter or Simon Peter, 23 as Simon, and 6 as Cephas). John is next in frequency with only 48 appearances, and Peter is present 50% of the time we find John in the Bible! Archbishop Fulton Sheen reckoned that all the other disciples combined were mentioned 130 times. If this is correct, Peter is named a remarkable 60% of the time any disciple is referred to!

    Jesus king of mercy I trust in you! Happy birthday my Lady!

    Ave Maria!

40. #1595-#1598

    Dear Eddie,thank you so much for sharing us the glories of Mary. Please keep posting if there are more to share. The messages was aptly and timely to be revealed in this later day time…

    Ave Maria!

41. 1591

    You have been attacking the Catholic Church since you entered the debate and yet you want me to provide you with Catholic teaching.

    Surely you must be aware of the teaching of God’s Church otherwise you would not be attacking Christ’s Body as you have.

    In fact you appear to have difficulties with the English language for if not you would know about Catholicism through my contributions.For contrary to your repeated allegation my offerings are out and out PURE Catholicism.

    I have no time for ‘personal interpretation’of scripture or tradition for our history confirms that personal interpretation is a weapon of satan.Through it he has attacked the Church of CHRIST and via egoism our world today is bogged down in thousands of groups or churches claiming to be the Church established by Jesus upon St.Peter- thou art PETER and upon this ROCK I will BUILD MY CHURCH.

    1592

    You use the term ‘pantheism’as if you could lure me into another futile discussion.I’m not surprised because one of your co-interpretators used the word ‘canabalism’when referring to Our Lord’s wonderful gift of himself in the Holy Eucharist.Apparently you like him will only accept the word of God if its acceptable to your own ego based satanic influenced opinion.A position or reaction similar to those who would not accept that God had the power to give us himself as food.Of course as a bible thumping mis-interpretator you will be aware of when some of his followers over 2,000 years ago turned their backs on their Saviour when he informed them of his eternal gift to them.

    Alan,I now conclude my replies to your wild allegations- there will be no more.But I assure you that I will pray for you when I receive Our Lord at Mass this evening.

    Goodbye and God bless.

42. Christine Marie (#1660):

    I admire your impressive array of scripture quotations but unlike yourself, majority of catholics (Liam for example) vividly paint a picture of ignorance on the “official” teachings of the Roman Catholic Church. Its like a pilot flying the plane blindly after suffering the loss of navigational instruments.

    Just a small off the cuff question on “Apostolic succession” … what do you think is the summary of the same according your personal interpretation? Does it mean succession of the “office” only??

43. #Liam (#1602):

    Pity so see you go. Wish you all the best as a Cradle catholic. You cannot provide catholic teaching because you are either woefully ignorant of it or a pretending. So you’ve decided to throw in the towel, eh? You developed cold feet so you decided to chicken out, eh?

    I pray that God almighty sends salvation to your your soul. Remember – Salvation is found by putting your entire trust in the person of The Lord Jesus Christ. Salvation cannot be acquired by being a member of a church nor can any church dispense salvation to any church member. Salvation is received by faith in a personal relationship with the Lord Jesus Christ.

    John 3:16 says – For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

    Note the bold words “in him” – yes.. in Jesus only. It does not say “in the Church”. Got it??

    See now the false doctrine of the RC Church that tries to deny the exclusive redemption Christ obtained for us in order to keep Catholics in bondage imposing the sacraments as necessity for salvation? Again salvation is not found in man or human traditions. It is dispensed by God God’s grace exclusively (Ephesians 2:8-9).

    Goodbye to you and God Bless you too.

44. Is apostolic succession biblical?”

    The doctrine of apostolic succession is the belief that the 12 apostles passed on their authority to successors, who then passed the apostolic authority on to their successors, continuing throughout the centuries, even unto today. The Roman Catholic Church sees Peter as the leader of the apostles, with the greatest authority, and therefore his successors carry on the greatest authority. The Roman Catholic Church combines this belief with the concept that Peter later became the first bishop of Rome, and that the Roman bishops that followed Peter were accepted by the early church as the central authority among all of the churches. Apostolic succession, combined with Peter’s supremacy among the apostles, results in the Roman bishop being the supreme authority of the Catholic Church – the Pope.

    However, nowhere in Scripture did Jesus, the apostles, or any other New Testament writer set forth the idea of “apostolic succession.” Further, neither is Peter presented as “supreme” over the other apostles. The Apostle Paul, in fact, rebukes Peter when Peter was leading others astray (Galatians 2:11-14). Yes, the Apostle Peter had a prominent role. Yes, perhaps the Apostle Peter was the leader of the apostles (although the Book of Acts records the Apostle Paul and Jesus’ brother James as also having prominent leadership roles). Whatever the case, Peter was not the “commander” or supreme authority over the other apostles. Even if apostolic succession could be demonstrated from Scripture, which it cannot, apostolic succession would not result in Peter’s successors being absolutely supreme over the other apostles’ successors.

    Catholics point to Matthias being chosen to replace Judas as the 12th apostle in Acts chapter 1 as an example of apostolic succession. While Matthias did indeed “suceed” Judas as an apostle, this is in no sense an argument for continuing apostolic succession. Matthias being chosen to replace Judas is only an argument for the church replacing ungodly and unfaithful leaders (such as Judas), with godly and faithful leaders (such as Matthias). Nowhere in the New Testament are any of the twelve apostles recorded as passing on their apostolic authority to successors. Nowhere do any of the apostles predict that they will pass on their apostolic authority. No, Jesus ordained the apostles to build the foundation of the church (Ephesians 2:20). What is the foundation of the church that the apostles built? The New Testament – the record of the deeds and teachings of the apostles. The church does not need apostolic successors. The church needs the teachings of the apostles accurately recorded and preserved. And that is exactly what God has provided in His Word (Ephesians 1:13; Colossians 1:5; 2 Timothy 2:15; 4:2).

    In short, apostolic succession is not biblical. The concept of apostolic succession is never found in Scripture. What is found in Scripture is that the true church will teach what the Scriptures teach and will compare all doctrines and practices to Scripture in order to determine what is true and right. The Roman Catholic Church claims that a lack of ongoing apostolic authority results in doctrinal confusion and chaos. It is an unfortunate truth (that the apostles acknowledged) that false teachers would arise (2 Peter 2:1). Admittedly, the lack of “supreme authority” amongst non-Catholic churches results in many different interpretations. However, these differences in interpretation are not the result of Scripture being unclear. Rather, they are the result of even non-Catholic Christians carrying on the Catholic tradition of interpreting Scripture in accordance with their own traditions. If Scripture is studied in its entirety and in its proper context, the truth can be easily determined. Doctrinal differences and denominational conflicts are a result of some Christians refusing to agree with what Scripture says – not a result of there being no “supreme authority” to interpret Scripture.

    Alignment with Scriptural teaching, not apostolic succession, is the determining factor of the trueness of a church. What is mentioned in Scripture is the idea that the Word of God was to be the guide that the church was to follow (Acts 20:32). It is Scripture that was to be the infallible measuring stick for teaching and practice (2 Timothy 3:16-17). It is the Scriptures that teachings are to be compared with (Acts 17:10-12). Apostolic authority was passed on through the writings of the apostles, not through apostolic succession.

45. My Presence In The Eucharist
    January 20, 2001

    Lord, why have You blinded so many to Your Works? Is it because of their stubborn refusal to repent and reconcile? Teach me, and pronounce Your Will ….

    Jesus:
    ah, My child … My Will is that you work with love in the light of My Spirit! My Spirit today more than ever is crying out for reconciliation among My shepherds; to be saved, everyone should repent and reconcile; let each shepherd examine his path; “think of the love My Father, I and the Holy Spirit lavish on you, every moment of your life, shepherd …”

    ah, daughter, do not imagine that I am not aware of the demands of the mission I have entrusted you with; to unite My House is not an easy task, let alone to revive it! but take heart because you are not alone; I am with you; do not get discouraged by those who do not perceive My Plan in you, I have taken away the sight from those who claim, “we see,” and given sight to those who could not see; be a model of unity to the rest of the world and bring forth, through your sacrifices, reconciliation among brothers;

    Satan has taken to himself to wage war on My Church; with violence he is attacking what I have bought with My Own Blood; he keeps My Church divided, cursing every faithful heart who professes the Truth and My Law;

    many of you who belong to the Church are looting it today; you loot by refusing to recognise My Body in the Eucharist, and partake of My Divine Mystery in the manner I truly instituted; you are looting My House when it comes to measure the magnificence of My Divinity and My Presence in the Eucharist; you are looting My House in many other ways; Scriptures never lie and cannot be rejected, but you reject parts of it, looting it in that way too; in My Church, I have given it to enrich it apostles, I have raised and given it prophets, teachers, and after these, miracles, the gift of healing and various other gifts; but you are plundering My House, you are looting it today;

    My Eyes are too pure to rest on this rebellion; so do not be surprised when I call; do not be surprised when I, in My Infinite Benevolence and Mercy, descend all the way to you, creation, to look at the window of your hearts; do not be surprised, that in spite of your awesome wretchedness, I am offering you a rich banquet unmeritedly, and that with royal prodigality and majesty I come to vest you with Myself, so that when My Angels will lead you into the eternal joys of heaven and into Our courts, you will be recognised as the flesh of My Flesh, the bone of My Bone; the Verdict then will be announced:

    “according to the life this soul led while on earth, she is worth the heavenly dowry of a bride, since she remained faithful to The Bride;1 this soul, in spite of all the trials I have been sending her, rocking her like a ship taken in a tempest, she cleaved to Me and remained attached to Me as an oyster is attached on a rock; by remaining thus attached to The Bride2 and to Me, the Bridegroom, she shared in My Divinity; her union with My Spirit crystallised her, transforming her to be godlike; 4 and like the sun, her rays illuminated her, because she possessed Me within herself; the glory of My deified sons and daughters here in heaven is now hers as well; this is the dowry she will receive from the Bridegroom Himself; He is the Dowry … come, come and share the joys of heaven and of God Himself for ever and ever!”

    oh, if you knew, generation, how many times I have yielded My Royal Sceptre … how I long to say to each soul:

    “beloved, come, step into the path of your permanent Home, the only true dwelling and the only True Resting Place for your soul; come and step into the nuptial chamber of My Heart; I invite you to follow the road of virtues which lead to Me; as a tender Bridegroom, I will adorn your soul with My Treasures, but foremost, I will adorn your soul with My Divinity; I will adorn you like a queen, 5 majestically with My Name and with My very Presence; I will turn your soul into a living altar, into a permanent hymn hymned to Me, your God; I, the great King, the One who is beyond nature, will mingle with your soul so that you and I become one;

    “on your own you can do nothing, this is why My Presence, which is pure Light is indispensable to illumine by grace your whole body; and as I reveal Myself to My angels I will reveal Myself to you through this light, and only then, you will be able to say:

    ‘I can see …’

    then, I will make Myself known to you; I will converse with you, and you with Me; the Triune God by nature will lean all the way to converse with the one I re-created and who became by grace a god born of Me; an adoptive heir of My Kingdom; you who are so weak and so corruptible if you truly repent looking at your so deplorable soul, I can make you similar to My Perfect Image;”

    My work and My plan which is the splendour of your so wicked times, is to draw all souls into My Sacred Heart; then all My Glory will be revealed to them in this Heart and all humanity will see It together; yes, indeed, My intention is to draw all of you in the wake of My Glory; from thereon I will be your portion, your delight, your Bridegroom vested with My Glory; and as a bridegroom who delights in his bride, in our espousals I will whisper in your ear:

    “and now come and bless your Lord of all things, the Maker of great deeds is everywhere; come close to Me, for I am your protector and your support; My loving bride, who consented to hear Me, may you rejoice in Me, your Lord; may I remain in your heart like blended incense, and may My Words taste6 as sweet as honey in your mouth when you eat them; let them be like music in your ear, My beloved;”

    I will then reveal to you the treasures I had kept for your generation: I will offer you the treasure of My Mercy, instructing you that in My Mercy, Words coming from My Mouth are uttered; by My Words I raise the spiritually dead, I reform the apostate, I heal the sick and free the captives, My Mouth is like a sharp sword;

    I form through My Mercy with My Word, prophets, who will plague those who live in darkness, but will console My people; through My Mercy I open the eyes of the blind, and those who lay in layers of dust I lift them to contemplate the Light; and all who trusted in their own power I reveal to them, through My Mercy, My Glory and My Majesty, so that their hearts turn to Me, their God;

    in these days of grace, My Mercy is one of the greatest treasures My Heart kept for your times; not that I ever stopped to shower you with My Mercy, but, in your times, which are so evil, I show more compassion to those who are bowed in the dust and their bodies crushed to the ground by sin than ever before; in the desert of your heart I planted celestial seeds, so that everyone may see and know the greatness of My Mercy;

    then, have I not said as well, that in the last days My Spirit will be poured out on all mankind, no matter how wretched you would be? such is the richness of My grace … today I lift you by grace; in My Mercy, I am showering on you My graces so that I make you understand who is the One who brings freedom, and who is the Giver of Life, so that you can see what rich glories are awaiting you;

    your epoch has more dead than alive, through its sins, its impiety, and its indifference towards Me; ever since the world was created I never ceased to demonstrate My everlasting power and deity, I am known from everything that came to be from non-being; but then, even in your earthly substance I can live in you, I can bring this earthly substance into life, it is through grace that you have been raised; so, am I to see My creatures forever in works of rebellion heading towards death? would I not act with Mercy?

    with Me are great riches, lasting wealth, enriching those who approach Me with a contrite heart; in our espousals I will offer you the treasure of knowing how to possess Me; the treasure of the Knowledge of the Triune God and of Understanding Him; have you not heard that only by Holy Wisdom a house is built and that by understanding it is made strong? by knowledge, its storerooms are filled with riches of every kind, rare treasures of divine value and so desirable by the sages of all time?

    in other words: by knowing Me, your soul and mind are filled with My transcendent light and My Glory; your soul is filled with My Divinity, with Myself; then and only then, your heart will apply to discipline and your ears to instruction, purchasing the Truth and cherishing it dearly; even your very nature will be transformed, My beloved ones, to My Deity; all your intentions will be moved by My Holy Spirit who untiringly was removing the dross from within you to endow your spirit with My Spirit and through My Spirit the Imperial Wealth which is, My Sovereignty;

    you will ask, “and what is it to understand God?” to understand Me is the first principle of Wisdom; it is to acknowledge Me as your God and to fear Me, to fear Me is avoidance of all evil;

    it is as well to have seen Me with your spiritual eyes while still on earth; it is essential for each one of you to have tasted Me while on earth; it is important for each soul to search for this vision7 and if your soul has not been able to attain My heights, 8 struggle and persevere to raise your spirit through contemplation; how else would you know your God? how would you, if you have not seen Me, be one of My sons and daughters arrayed in My Light thrice Holy?

    I am not inaccessible nor unattainable since I mingle with your soul; I unite Myself with you and we become one; then once united, to remind you of your heritage, I make Myself knowable to you; in majesty and splendour I lead your soul into My depths to reveal Myself with royal prodigality; you have read that the depths of God can only be known by the Spirit to understand spiritual things; Scriptures say:

    “an unspiritual person is one who does not accept anything of the Spirit of God: he sees it all as nonsense; it is beyond his understanding because it can only be understood by means of the Spirit;”

    a spiritual man, on the other hand, is able to judge the value of everything, and his own value is not to be judged by other men, as Scriptures say: “who can know the mind of the Lord, so who can teach him?” 9

    the treasure of knowing and understanding Me is heaven on earth all the time; it is to rule with kindness, justice and integrity on earth; having received this treasure by grace through the Holy Spirit you will know My Will in you; We have once said: 10 “if anyone wants to boast let him boast of this: of understanding and knowing Me …” this treasure is beyond the price of pearls; ah, then comes the treasure of intimacy, intimacy with Me, your God; the bursts of flames coming from your heart out of enflamed love, will be the first signs of your intimacy with Me, the prolonged periods of thirst for Me, ceaselessly seeking Me, will be the dawn of your approach into that intimate union I so desire from each soul, so that they can come and taste My Sweetness and, with all your soul, you shall enter into the delights of heaven and you will sing the melodies of My angels in heaven in honour of My Mercy I had upon you;

    then, as David cried out once to Me, aflamed by his love, you too will cry out to Me his own words:

    “God, you are my God, I pine for You; my heart thirsts for You, my body longs for You …. I feel inside me like a land of drought, weary and waterless without You, I long to gaze on You; on my bed I think of You, I meditate on You all night long; my soul clings close to You … 11 although I am young12 you have given me more understanding than the aged, 13 because I keep Your divine instructions; oh, how delightful it is to befriend You my sweet God; Your Presence, so intimately intertwined with My soul, rejoices me and is sweeter than honey; Your fragrance perfumes all the universe and inebriates my soul while invigorating my very being;”

    in your awakening, you will discover that I am your Beloved, your Heaven, your Eden and that in Me you can live; you will discover in My light, that I have put in your heart, the magnificence of My Works, and you will praise My Holy Name; you will discover that My Gaze upon you is like a magnet, and I will be rejoicing by looking at you, for I will be looking at My Own reflection, I will be looking at Myself in you … so do not be surprised when I will come to you to tell you:

    “I am Governor in you now and I have no other desire than to see Myself in you; My Presence in you, kindles a desire and thirst for Me like a flame; every sigh of longing will be inhaled by Me as a perfumed bouquet of roses, appeasing Me from the offences done against Us14 by men;”

    I am Perfect and I want you perfect as well; have you not read: “as the governor is, so will be the inhabitants of his city …” 15

    then I, in My turn, will reveal to you the heavenly hosts while singing to you religion and righteousness in poetry; I will assemble all the saints in heaven, I will assemble all the courts of heaven to reveal to them My majesty and My sovereignty in you and how I made out of you a royal diadem for My Head, a royal prodigy of your times; all your ornaments will be divine as they would be offered by Me; your former slavery will become freedom in Me;

    today, I am looking down from heaven to count the clean hearts:

    – what am I to say? was My Sacrifice in vain? My Spirit is broken … I sacrificed Myself for you in order to set you free from all wickedness and to purify a people so that it could be My very Own and would have no ambition except to do good;

    I have done everything so that you could be justified by grace and become heirs to My Kingdom; I have been intensively teaching you all and with great compassion, My Law, renewing you with the Holy Spirit of Grace, even to repeating Myself invariably; I now teach, giving you instructions in the way of Holy Wisdom; it is not a new doctrine but the same one of the Bride, 16 in which you can rely on;

    you all belong to My House; since I have bought My House with My Own Blood and I have shed every drop of My Blood for everyone … you are My House …

    you have asked, daughter, in the beginning that I pronounce My Will; I repeat to all of you that My Will is that you work with love in the Light of My Spirit so that you may all be one; ic;

46. Remain Faithful To The Institution Of My Eucharist

    October 22, 1996

    My Lord,
    Watchman of my soul,
    Guardian of my heart, Salvation of my spirit,
    Come and burn to the root in me all that is not You;
    Pass through me to revive what is dead;

    Ruler of Kindness, Justice and Integrity,
    speak to me, Your daughter!

    Jesus:
    daughter of My Church, if you remain obedient to My Church, you will not fail Me …. confess your sins often, admitting you are a sinner, so that the Viper, the father of lies, will be unable to deceive you …. in your repentance you will always produce the appropriate fruit: the fruit of love, so come and grow in My love …. come now and write My Message:

    I tell you solemnly, the man who will thrust himself voluntarily at the Beast’s feet, worshipping him and accepting his kingdoms of the world, will be cast into the fires of hell; I want you to pray for these souls, daughter, for they are as precious as you are to Me; see, daughter, although they are your enemies, you must pray for them to be delivered; they do not realise that making the world their friend is making Me, their God, their enemy, this is why My Law, My precepts and My Tradition do not appeal to them ….

    when I was led by the Spirit out in the wilderness to be tempted by the devil, and the devil showed Me from a very high mountain all the kingdoms of the world, offering them all to Me if I worshipped him, I replied: “be gone Satan! for Scriptures say: ‘you must worship the Lord your God and serve Him alone;'”

    today, to My great sorrow, a huge population from every country is being drawn to worship the Beast and he has become for them their ruler and their god, for they have accepted his kingdoms and their luxury; they have become the traders of the earth; yes! they have set their hearts on the fruits of the world; deceived by Satan, they promote error, obsessed with their sins, they promote liberalism and the like, defying the Truth and the Tradition of My Church; the Lie is defying the Truth ….

    so I want you to pray for them, daughter, for I love them too; pray, for they are under the influence of evil forces; these dark powers of the underworld are deluding them and interfering in their priestly ministry … these evil powers of hell are after My consecrated souls to draw them to believe what is untrue; you are well aware of the depths of My Wounds and I have let you know how much I suffer by trickling from your eyes tears of blood; 1 how could I not suffer when I see My very Own, whom I love dearly, be so utterly deceived and accepting this deadly poison …. this is why I am telling you with insistence: pray for them, and regard them as brothers to you who need correction;

    today this deadly poison is affecting My consecrated souls; this is the smoke that penetrated into My Sanctuary; they are breaking the Law of My Church2 and their sin will condemn them unless they repent; now they are the gangrene of My Body who listen to My Word but do not obey it; nobody can imagine them irreligious when you see them, but you will always know them by their fruit which is: disobedience;

    – disobedience to this Law of My Church,
    – disobedience to the Vicar of My Church,
    – disobedience to the Tradition of My Church,
    – disobedience to My entire Law;

    frantic persecutors of My messengers who reveal them and their plans to the entire world, promoters of liberalism; persecutors of My Abels who oppose them and who instruct My lambs in virtue, defending My Law; these5 are of whom Scriptures say: “these are the ones who have kept their virginity6 and not been defiled with women; they follow the Lamb wherever He goes; they have been redeemed from amongst men to be the first-fruits for God and for the Lamb; they never allowed a lie to pass their lips and no fault can be found in them;” “they are the learned who supply to My lambs truthfulness and who shine as brightly as the vault of heaven, and as bright as stars for all eternity;” 8

    those who produce the fruit of disobedience are a living abomination in My Eyes and a condemnation of the way they disobey the Law given by My Church …. alas, for that Day! alas, for My Day, which is drawing near, it will be a day of great sorrow that day; for the unlawful it will be terror, since they had put Me, their Lord, to the test; but I tell you, the supporters of the Beast will fall together with their pride and power and everything they have will crumble into dust;

    why have they not listened to Me when I said this parable to the people? the parable of the wicked husbandmen; 9 the scribes and the chief priests who were there, listening to Me, got annoyed at once and if it were not that they feared the people, they would have laid their hands on Me; today still I have tenants who are in My Vineyard10 who act like the wicked husbandmen towards those I am sending to them, not only do they mistreat them but they would be ready to sell My Blood too; 11 O what sorrow, daughter what agony to see them pose as men devoted to My Law, but I, who read in their heart, know the contents of their heart ….

    have they looked who is standing outside their door knocking? and yet whom they allowed to sit at table next to them and share their meal? they allowed those evil forces to dine with them and sit side by side at table with them; have they not read: “it was the stone rejected by the builders that became the keystone;” with this, I tell you12 again, that the day you will fall on that stone you will be dashed to pieces; anyone it falls on will be crushed;

    and you, daughter of My Church, even if the evil powers and all hell are working through them against you, it is because they realised you are a danger to them and that My Messages regarding the Beast of John’s Revelation13 are aimed at them; yes, you have become a menace to all these dark powers and Satan will go as far as to put even nature against you; this powerful enemy is at your heels, 14 but do not fear, My Holy Spirit living in you is far greater and much more powerful than all hell put together; so, go and fill all the nations with My Words;

    let Me remind you, dearest soul, that I have brought you up to tear up iniquity and unsettle and upset every evil spirit you encounter on your way or in the cities you go to witness, so do not be surprised when these powers of hell join forces together to try and prevent you from exercising your prophetic ministry; these attacks are bound to come your way as soon as they realise you are well on your way to disturb them and uproot many of them; you have indeed become a menace and the prime concern to the devil because you do not only carry My Word, which is holy and sanctifies you, but also the power of My Holy Spirit who lives in you terrifies them, because My Holy Spirit gives the world the utter conviction that you come from Me, the Christ ….

    I have also brought you up to help build up the ruins of My Sanctuary and to plant in this desert, so do not fear, “lo tedhal”, 15 I have already promised you that we shall finish your mission hand in hand with success and with victory;

    I have formed you strong, to be able to face this powerful enemy; I have given you the Spirit of Fortitude so that you proclaim My Word and My Tradition thrice blessed, to the utmost capacity, and the power that graciously descends from My Spirit will give you utterance; My Spirit will be your strength so that you carry the crosses with courage till the end; so let My Word strike through you and pierce all the kingdoms of the world, dragging them all down to destruction;

    yes! I shall continue to use you against those evil powers through My Spirit of Fortitude and even, in this battle, when from time to time, you will be drenched with blood by their vicious attacks, My Mother and I will uphold you; the destructive scourge would not catch you; I, the Christ, will walk before you, so that with My Sceptre I may point out to you the traitors of My Church who need your prayers;

    I will encourage you to pursue the sinners, the great and the proud, the hypocrites, the rebels and the lofty speakers; with My Cross in one hand and the rosary in the other, you are to shatter the heresies and build Truth and Faithfulness in their place; I will continue to set you at large so that you may crown Me with your fruit;

    -16 O slaves of the Beast! can you not see how he17 is leading you slowly and slyly to your destruction? 18 but, plot though you do to harm My Church and weave your plan as you may, you cannot and will not triumph, I will be triumphant in the end; I have already unmasked to the nations part of your plan, and the day the Rebel will appear, “that day you19 appear, I will unmask to the nations your entire plan of destruction; I will reveal to the entire world the intentions of your heart ….”

    go now and remind My children, that I am their Rock and I will never fail them; I have solemnly warned them previously and I will persistently keep warning them;

    remain always faithful to Me and to the Tradition of the Church, remain faithful to the Institution of My Eucharist, recognising Me in My Body; remain faithful to the teachings of this Pope which are sound because they are founded in the Truth; I am the Truth; My little children, do not stray away from the Truth, remain in the Truth; by remaining in the Truth you will remain in Me;

    Your Eyes, my Lord, are turned on the sinful kingdoms of the world, to wipe away each one of them from the surface of the earth. But will there be forgiveness to those who were tempted?

    if they will repent, acknowledging their sin, and swear loyalty in front of My Throne, I will remember the oath that they made with Me when they were ordained and I will pardon them with all My Heart; come, do not forget to pray for these souls ….

    come; in your persecutions, My Father in heaven blesses you, to remain firm; in your hardships, I am by your side to sustain you; in times of danger, 20 My Holy Spirit is your Guide and your Protector; so proclaim My Message with faith and courage; I am a gentle God who loves you, and remember, consolation is to be found in Me! Ic

47. Run To Your Blessed Mother

    April 3, 1996

    Jesus:

    . . . My little pupil of these end of times, I will dictate to you now a heavenly discourse on My Mother’s Heart ….

    as I have said to you previously; My Mother’s Heart and Mine are so united that They become One; the Virgin of virgins, the Holiest, forever now in Heaven, My Mother, continues to be proclaimed in Heaven as: My Mother; 1

    when I, God, descended to be conceived by the Holy Spirit and be born by the Virgin Mary, I came into My heaven! I descended from one heaven into the other, I left one throne to sit on the other; like the lamp shining on the sacred lamp-stand, I found Her Heart, shining from within and without;

    I have been welcomed in this Paradise to be glorified; what had been lost2 and profaned by Eve was to be gained3 and sanctified by the Virgin Mary through Her perfect obedience and humility; and through this Woman, My Reign on earth will once more come; My Reign on earth will be founded in each heart; once more there will be poured on you My Spirit, so lavishly, that this aridity of now will be transformed into a fertile land;

    it had been said that at the end of times, Our Two Hearts would raise apostles, and they would be called: apostles of the end of times; these would be instructed by the Queen of Heaven and by Myself, to go forward in every nation, to proclaim without fear the Word of God, even when they would be drenched with blood, by the Enemy’s vicious attacks, they shall not be broken; their tongue would pierce the enemies of My Church, like a double-edged sword, by exposing their heresies;

    they would never stagger, nor would they know fear, because I would provide them with a spirit of courage; the destructive whip would not catch them; they would not leave one stone unturned; they would pursue the sinners, the lofty speakers, the great and the proud, the hypocrites, the traitors of My Church, they would pursue them with My Cross in one hand, and the rosary in the other; and We would stand by their side; they would shatter the heresies and build faithfulness and truth in their place; they would be the antidote of the poison, because they would sprout, like buds, from the Royal Heart of Mary; 4

    these apostles of the end of times would call on God, their Father, and God, their Father, would call on their spirit; they would call on Mary, their Blessed Mother, and their Blessed Mother would call on them to become witnesses of the Most High; and the Holy Spirit would give them a spirit of zeal to be ready for God, to be ready for this Battle, that day, the haughty crown of the powers of evil will be trampled underfoot by the Woman adorned with the sun, and by all Her children;

    the second Eve, in whom I have given enough power to overthrow Satan and his empire, will crush his head with Her heel; this enmity is not only given between the Queen of heaven and Satan, but it is given as well between Her children whose empire is in Her Heart, and the children of the Devil, who have built their kingdoms in him and through him, and who are in your days your biggest persecutors; many of these are worshippers of the Beast, the scholars and the philosophers of your times ….

    I, in My Trinitarian holiness, had chosen this humble Maiden to become in Her perfect virtues and graces, the Woman who would challenge, by Her virtues and graces, the entire kingdom of Lucifer, who constantly flies into a rage and who trembles with fear at the sound of Her Name;

    I tell you, no less than the height of heaven over the earth is the greatness, the power and the splendour of Her Name; let all who live on earth revere before the Queen’s Heart; She has never ceased protecting Her children from the ambushes of the Evil one, who, in your times, has5 set out openly to give battle to My Sacred Heart, and to all the army of My saints; but soon, the empire of the Evil one will be broken up and his sovereignty will be uprooted by the powerful Hand of Mary; 6

    in all truth I tell you: there is no one on earth or in heaven, or in the angelic powers that has been given such great authority and power over all, as your Blessed Mother, after My Power and My Authority; for I am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last, the One who is, who was, and who is to come;

    I suffice by Myself, as you know, but it is through Mary’s Virginal Heart that My Redemptive plan began, and it will be again through this Holy Heart that I will accomplish My Salvation plan; so honour Her Heart, you who fly into a rage at the sound of Her Name, and understand that She is the Joy of My Sacred Heart, the Joy of My celestial court;

    Her thoughts from the day of Her Conception were always in union with My thoughts; Her Heart, in total submission to My Father’s Will, was an incessant prayer, an incessant hymn of love, an adoration to Me, your triune God, but One in the unity of essence;

    – today, in these end of times, where the battle is raging on Our Two Hearts, 7 and on Our children who witness the Truth, I tell you: run to your Blessed Mother, who, like a hen who hides her chicks under her wings, will hide you, too, under Her Mantle;

    ah … but so many of you have perished even before you were born, with all the prohibitions to the devotions you once had on Her Virginal Heart! all because of your human doctrines and your rationalistic regulations, you have regulated your heart and your life according to this worldly life; O slaves of Sin! slaves of money! slaves of Satan! consider yourselves dead and putrefied!

    well then, your time of lust is almost over now; have you not heard that the Splendour of Dawn8 is going to reign and shine in each heart that has been consecrated to Our Two Divine Hearts from which they will obtain divinisation? that divinisation that the human race lost at its fall …. since sin entered the world through one man, and through sin, death; yet My plan of Redemption was to be laid out by Mary’s Co-Redemptive Heart, the second Eve, perfected in the Image of God, so that I, the New Adam, would find My Paradise in Her Immaculate Heart;

    will I hear from you, generation:

    “my heart is ready, Lord, to learn to love and honour the Tabernacle that carried Your Sacred Heart; it is true, that from the womb I have gone astray, I have been in error since my birth; like Esau I have been running away from my Mother to look after my interests and achieve them by harrying others; I have been depending on my own strength; I hated my brother who, contrary to my heart, meditated on how to please our Mother’s Heart and remained near Her, receiving in abundance Her Graces; I have not been like Jacob and his descendants;

    “Lord, my heart is ready to learn and love with honour the Sanctuary of the Sanctuary Most Holy, so that no deceit will enter any more in my spirit ever so spiteful, who harassed, like Cain, his brother then finally killed him; I will stop hounding those who belong to Her Immaculate Heart but instead turn to the Virgin of virgins and become another little Jacob, so that in Her Graciousness, She pours out of Her Virginal and Immaculate Heart, on me, abundant graces so that my soul, once Hers, will feast on Her riches, making my heart an ornament of beauty in the Ornament of Beauty;

    “let my heart, Lord, desire and long to gaze on Your Sanctuary9 to see Your Power and Authority, to gaze in the Treasury of the Sanctuary and feast most richly; do not allow my soul, any more, Lord, to go down to the earth below, like Cain or Esau, but lift my soul to Her Most Holy Heart to become an heir too by receiving, like Jacob, heavenly blessings;” 10

    – come, let your thoughts be on heavenly things now so that you will be able to comprehend what Wisdom is hiding from you; for this you need self-abasement and repentance; the mystery that had been hidden for generations is now being revealed to you; your hope of salvation is at your hand’s reach;

    have you not noticed how, in these end of times, the Queen of Peace is passing over the earth, escorted by My Angels? have you not noticed how Her Immaculate Heart is proclaiming My Word to you all and preparing My Reign? have you not noticed how your Blessed Mother’s Heart is training Her children and forming them Heart to heart so that everyone is ready for My Reign? have you not noticed how, from Her Treasury, She is perfecting you in Her Heart for Me?

    I have given the Queen of Heaven and earth all the jewels of Wisdom in Her Heart, and from this treasury She gives abundantly Her graces to take you out of the power of darkness and make you great saints and apostles, and great warriors to join Her in this great battle of your times;

    with Her Maternal love, the Queen of Heaven seeks all ways to obtain your freedom so that you gain heaven; She instructs you and reminds you that you, too, are Her child, belonging by grace to the imperial household of the Saints in heaven and that She reserved for you, too, a throne among the Saints;

    – there is nothing I cannot do for the Delight-of-My-Heart11 because from the beginning there was nothing in Her that would see things differently from the way My Father, I, and the Holy Spirit would see them; Our12 Will was in perfect union with Her will; Her desires were Our desires; for I am the Heart of Her Heart, the Soul of Her Soul, the Spirit of Her Spirit; have you not heard of Our Oneness in Heart, Soul and Spirit?

    – My state on earth, as God-Man, was divine, yet I was obedient, living under the authority of My Mother and My Adoptive Father; I emptied Myself to assume the condition of a slave by accepting death, and you, generation, have not yet understood that the True Vine cast His roots in the Vineyard13 of My Father, and the Spouse of the Holy Spirit; the City of God, 14 the Promised Land, is your Mother too, in whom you owe honour; ah, generation, how could your heart have taken such a deceptive path to abstain from Her intercession?

    have you not read: “the Lord God will give Him the throne of His ancestor David?” 15 the Queen of heaven and earth is My Throne too; She is Throne of your King, who was made flesh from David’s line …. the Lord your God, “would rule over the House of Jacob forever and ever and His Reign will have no end;” 16 the Jacobs of today are Her children, the apostles of the end of times, and the great Saints that through My Mother’s Heart are raised and formed, to be one heart with Us forever and ever, for My Reign in their heart will have no end;

    be one;

48. Let My Imperial Court Prepare For Me My Way
    I Am Sending You Before Me My Mother

    October 10, 1990

    peace be with you, child; allow Me to use your hand; it is I, your Jesus; it is Love who speaks to you and asks you …

    “O come and invade me!”

    ah, I shall then fill you … hear Me and write My message for the entire world;

    peace be with you; Love is speaking; Love is offering; Love is healing, even injuries that appeared to be beyond healing; Love is consoling those who are not cared for; My Love for you is eternal and I am known to be constant in My affection;

    approach … come close to Me, by praying with your heart; I am offering you a place in My school, I am offering you Wisdom to teach you My Knowledge; blessed are they who humbly accept My Instructions and lay My Words to heart;

    hear Me, My beloved; Scripture says: “the language of My Cross may be illogical to those who are not on the way to salvation, but those of you who are on the way see it as God’s power to save” 1 and it is this Language I am coming to teach you, it is this Language of Love you will hear in My school; and you, you who are willing to learn, be blessed, be strong and happy; though obstacles are bound to come, do not fear, rely on Me; but alas for the one who provides them, he shall have to answer Me in the Day of Judgement!

    My Return is imminent, and I am giving you constant signs to prepare you; Love is on the Path of return, I am on My way back to you;

    – tell Me, when a king enters into a city, will there be no preparations to receive him? the whole city will be in turmoil and the king will send before him his elect and his imperial court to prepare a way for him and make his paths straight; he will send his messengers to announce his coming; he will ask them to shout with a loud voice: “here is your King, your King is coming with His Heart in His Hand to offer It to you! Mercy now leans down from heaven and from His Throne; He has taken pity on you;”

    this is why, before My Return, I am sending you, before Me, the Ark of Alliance, I am sending you the Woman of the Apocalypse, the second Eve, who will crush the serpent’s head with her heel; I am sending you, before Me: My Mother, to open a broad highway and level it in this desert; I am sending you the Queen of Heaven, the Door to Heaven, to prepare you, and to school all you who still lie in the dust, to come forward and make your peace with Me, your King, before My Great Return; I am sending you the Queen of Peace to thresh from one corner of the earth to the other and gather you one by one;

    I am sending you, before My Great Return, My servants the prophets, to remind you of My Law and to turn you back from your evil ways and live holy, and announce to you events before they take place;

    I am sending you My angels to remind you of My Holiness, My Magnificence and My Splendour; I am sending you My mouthpieces to shout and proclaim on the rooftops of your houses the Wedding of My Holy Spirit; I will not grow weary of calling you to wed Me; I will not get discouraged by your hostility nor by your aridity;

    I will be in pursuit of your heart and like a young man marrying a virgin, the One whom you wounded all along will wed you; and I, in My Love, shall make you replace the Thorns encircling My Heart, by a flowered Wreath; and like a bridegroom wearing his wedding wreath, I too shall wear it, because this wreath will be My Wreath of Victory; this will be the Prize of My Mercy …

    generation, I shall make you Mine; I shall lift you up and carry you as a bridegroom carries his bride into his rooms, and in My everlasting Love I shall carry you into My Sacred Heart and make you Mine for eternity;

    soon, very soon now I shall tear the heavens open and come down in full force! if you were to understand fully what I mean, you would not spend your time being lethargic, you would be in constant prayer to Me; for suddenly and as quick as thunderbolt, I shall descend in flame of devouring fire and unveil all that has been hidden from you; I shall with My Finger point out to you all those that honoured Me with lip-service, never serving Me with the language I had taught them: the Language of My Cross, the Language of Love, the Language that teaches you things beyond human understanding;

    I shall reveal to you the Cains, whose language is not My Language but this one of rich merchants and trade; pray for these Cains; do not judge them, spend your time with prayers for them, do not allow your tongue to slip;

    – do not be one of these who say to My seers: “see no visions” and to My prophets: “do not prophesy”; let My Imperial Court prepare for Me My Way; no prophecy ever came from man’s initiative; when My seers and prophets speak for Me, it is by Grace that they do and by My Holy Spirit that fills them, moves them and opens their mouth to repeat My Words; and I shall continue recalling you the Truth, by my mouthpieces, even if you know the Truth; I shall keep revealing My plans to My servants the prophets and show My Magnificence in visions to My seers; leave My elect and My predilected souls free to prepare the Way for Me your King; let them complete their witnessing;

    I am sending you My Celestial Court to prophesy for these end of Times in the wilderness of your era, to convert you before My Great Day comes; realise that I do not descend only for Mercy but also for Judgement; I do not tell My messengers to call only the just, I tell them to call also the unjust, the poor, the lame, the rejects of your society, and everyone they meet in the streets, to come and fill up My school; I want to call all those who never sought Me nor ever knew Me, to come and prosper in My House, for these are the Times of Mercy and of Grace;

    then let all those who see you, gaze and stare at your transfiguration, let it show on your faces and by the glow of your heart that you have been attending My School and that you are My pupils and I, your Master; let them see in your eyes the reflection of everything you have witnessed, let them see on your body the marks of My Wounds; and if anyone asks you how you received them, tell them that you received them in the House of your Master’s friends where He at first received them … then lift up your cross and follow Me;

    I, Jesus Christ, Beloved Son of God and Saviour, blow My Breath on you and bless you all leaving the Sigh of My Love on your foreheads; go in peace and be one in My Name;

49. Those That Oppose Peter Are Opposing My Church
    Bend To Unite

    June 21, 1988

    Seer: Lord?

    Jesus:
    I am; pray for the renewal of My Church; pray for those souls who oppose Peter, pray for those who are trying to silence Peter; the days now are numbered and My Soul is submerged in sorrow; My Sacred Heart is imbued with bitterness, My Soul is yearning for them to realise their Error;

    those that oppose Peter are opposing My Church, they are opposing My Law, they are opposing Me, their Lord and God; they are condemning Peter-of-My-lambs, thus condemning My Law; blinded by Vanity himself they do not see clear anymore that by condemning Peter they are not following the Law but instead become judges of My Law! O listen to what the Spirit says to the Church! return; come back, beloved one; 1 it is I, the Lord, who have selected Peter, Peter who today bears the name, John Paul II; I am telling you, beloved one, My Sacred Heart has chosen him; come back, reconcile for My sake, beloved; I, the Lord, will forgive your sins and will purify you;

    RETURN! return all of you to Peter for it is I, your God, who has chosen him; it is I who have given him a disciple’s tongue, and through Me he is able to reply to the weary; oh, creation! is there no more wisdom left in you? creation! you are failing to appreciate My Fathomless Love I have for you, and yet, I answer to everyone who invokes Me; I am with you when you are in trouble, I am your Refuge;

    today I, the Lord, will add one more commandment; write: “bend! bend to be able to reconcile and unite, humble yourselves to unite;” child!

    Yes, Lord?

    I give you My Peace; be obedient, allowing Me to use you as I wish; trust Me, you are in your Father’s Hands;

    Seer:
    Lord,
    I am but following You,
    and my soul is in peace
    as a child with his mother,
    trusting You fully and as a child,
    I want to obey You.

    Jesus:
    remember My Presence, I am with you; we, us?

    we, us?

    Seer: “Yes, Lord. Yes, St. Mary.”

50. THE HOLY SACRIFICE OF THE MASS
    (Sunday, 12th December 1993)

    Jesus:
    The holy sacrifice of the Mass is the drama of the Crucifixion renewed at every celebration from the actual crucifixion of Jesus Christ until the last Holy Mass in the world. The Holy Sacrifice of the Mass is the reality of the divine holocaust, and when the Epistle to the Hebrew says that Christ “died once for all” (Heb 9,26), it speaks the truth, but that one time endures with every celebration of the Holy Sacrifice. And then “judgment will come” (Heb 9, 27), the one by the King of Kings who will receive the deserved justification.

    The Holy Sacrifice of the Mass is the renewal of the horrible and defamatory crucifixion of the greatest of all men on earth. St. John the Baptist says it in the Gospel: “Whose sandals strap I am not worthy to untie” (Jn 1,27). No one reaches His ankle, and His death is an offering so exceptional that it is like Him: beyond any dimension, and beyond any time, measure or distance. The Holy Sacrifice of the Mass is the reality of the Crucifixion, unique and above any human understanding. It is the renewal of the divine offering, when it is considered according to man’s measure. The priest renews it in his own time, in such a manner that the Holy Church asserts that the renewal is “one” with the Only Moment, perpetuated through centuries. However in reality, to the eyes of God, it is not a renewal, but rather the Unique Reality which surpasses every man’s perspective.

    This is the Sacrifice of the Mass, but words so frequently repeated for many often remain abstract. What is the Sacred Host?

    It is the living body and the blood shed by the Son of God, the God-Man, born from God and from the Most Holy Mother of God. Immerse yourself in the ocean of suffering of the Son of Man. Offer this ocean to God and then let yourself be swept away by the wave of the Infinite. Yes, Jesus Christ has suffered limitless suffering in His body. The suffering carried by the waves of this ocean is limitless because it is the suffering of the Man-God, Who is everything. And in whatever He does, in all that He is, all that He gives and all that He receives are proportionate. He is offered according to the time of men and in the measure of creation. He is offered for each man, and those who receive Him, receive His Life. He is offered to the Father, and the Son of God offers Himself to His Father according to the measure of God, and God the Father gives Himself to His Son according to the measure of God. The Divine Life, which Both accept from the Other in the vivifying love of the Holy Spirit, is God. This is the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass— the perfect gift: gigantic, exceptional and so personal that the gift is total. The One is the Other, the One is of the Other, the One is given to the Other. It is also in the same way that I give Myself to humanity. It is in the Divine Life that I pour graces on men, My brothers, and on the Holy Church.

    If men were holier they would come calling at every peal of the bells to assist in the Holy Sacrifice of the Holy Mass. But they have the heaviness of the tomb while I give them life. They do not understand it sufficiently.

    There are many realities that men do not know, and they do not even desire to know them! They are still like little children in their reasoning, in their reactions and in the way they cry without restrain when a misfortune strikes them in time. Very often, I apparently have to abandon them to their great disasters, due to their attachment to the visible reality. Also their moral sufferings have little reason of being before the Divine Reality, Who as a Father, knows everything much better than they do. I give to them what is hard to accomplish — otherwise they remain what they are: slaves, proud, presumptuous, choleric, self-reliant, neurotic and hobbled before the life of Grace.