Why should we pray to Virgin Mary? The reasons are many.
Why do Catholics pray to Mother Mary? Is Rosary really powerful?
The intercession of Mother Mary is very powerful as Jesus cannot neglect His mothers commands.This can be proved by the first miracle Jesus did at the wedding at Cana. – (John 2:1-11). Mother Mary told Jesus “They have no more wine.” And what was the final result? He turned water into wine.
In “The Poem of the Man-God” by Maria Valtorta, she says that Jesus told her about this incident as “I did it for Mary”. This proves that the intercession of Mother Mary is very very strong.
Mother Mary was blessed with Holy Spirit abundantly. We can see this as we read “At that time Mary got ready and hurried to a town in the hill country of Judea, where she entered Zechariah’s home and greeted Elizabeth. When Elizabeth heard Mary’s greeting, the baby leaped in her womb, and Elizabeth was filled with the Holy Spirit.” (Luke 1:39-41) ; just by Virgin Mary’s greeting.
Listen to the talk from Apologetics on Mary, Purgatory and The Bible
What the angels thought on this matter:-
When angel appeared before Zechariah,father of John, angel just greets him by his name ,nothing more although he was “upright in the sight of God, observing all the Lord’s commandments and regulations blamelessly.” – (Luke 1:6)
When angel appeared before Joseph, the greeting was like this: “an angel of the Lord appeared to him in a dream and said, “Joseph son of David, do not be afraid to take Mary home as your wife, because what is conceived in her is from the Holy Spirit.” – (Matthew 1:20). Angel greeted him ‘son of david’, thats all.
Now let us see how did the angel greet Virgin Mary. It goes like this: “The angel went to her and said, “Greetings, you who are highly favored! The Lord is with you.” (Luke 1:28). See the difference….
Also read the article Mary, The Mystical Rose
THis is very poor theology. First of all, Jesus id our King and Savior and he is our intercessor whom died for our sins, not Mary. She was an Earthly vessle that was pure that God choose to use, YES. But Devine in no way. Second when we pass from the Earth we do not become Angleic being’s. Lastly I would like the writer of this blog to seriously consider what you are teaching others, I am not sayng no one is saved but no one day you will be held accountable. His bride is to be spotless and the Bridegroom is to be held at His highest value in which He deserves.
Dear Celestino,joeli,sharon & many others, i beg, you all turn back to GOD.not goddess. Christians are becoming worst than hindus to worship more than one god.If you do not want to turn back to GOD,that’s up to you,BUT DO NOT MAKE OTHERS TO TURN AGAINST GOD.Preach the BIBLE.NOT YOUR FAIRY TALES.because of people like you,many Christians are turning to hindu culture.why? because your preaching are not strong enough to stick them to GOD. you give secondary place to BIBLE and primary to your leader’s words from Rome.please go through the histories of at least last 20 popes,then you will come to know how many changes and twists they have done in law of GOD and in the CHURCH.REPENT Dears.
GOD Bless you.
3 major mistakes that the protestant founders committed, which have become errors in their teachings.
First Mistake:
In their effort to distance themselves from the Catholic Church, they conveniently forgot Amos 4.13.
I will remind them all here ( obviously, they know about it now, and are forever repentant about it )
God described Himself to Amos and to Israel:
‘..it is He who forges the mountains, creates the wind, who reveals His mind to humankind..’
God used ‘reveals’, not ‘revealed’, present tense, which means that He speaks His mind to us from the beginning of time up to now.
When protestant Churches sprang up 500 years ago, with one voice they said, and are still saying, that God’s revelations to Catholics/Orthodox, were and are from the devil.
Do you wonder then, why no ‘revelations’ from Heaven has ever been given to protestants?
Catholics and Orthodox receive revealations from God because they believe in Amos 4.13.
Second Mistake
Protestant founders threw out Transubstantiation from the Eucharist – big mistake. One of the reasons the Son of God was born as a human being, is to show us that the physical and the spiritual are inseparable. In Jesus’s case, the physical and the divine.
To deny Transubstantiation is to deny this fact. To share in the body of Christ spiritually, we must first share it physically – the physical and the spiritual are inseparable.
Jesus stressed this point in Matt 16.19, and again in Matt 18.18
To deny this fact is to deny that Jesus was both human and divine – i.e. to fall into the arms of Arius.
I suggest here that you take time to think about this point carefully. Pray and the Holy Spirit for His 7 gifts.
Third Mistake
Protestants don’t honour Our Holy Mother, the most blessed of all the women who ever lived, who carried the Word for 9 months and became the Arc of the New Covenant.
Why don’t they ?
The Rosary and all the heavenly ‘revelations’ in the past 2000 years were from the ‘Mind of God’.
Why don’t protestants accept these revelations?
The good news is, they will very soon.
Thats it everyone. I have given you what the Lord showed me.
God bless
A few minutes ago, after I had completed the Chaplet to the Holy Spirit, I opened the ‘True Life in God’ book randomly and this is the Message the Lord showed me:
‘..if some of you say ” we don’t need this prophetic revelation, we are not obliged to listen to it or read it because Scriptures are enough for us and we can learn all knowledge from them”…I ask you in your incredulity:
” do you know why you do not believe, and do you know why you are so indifferent and determined to close your heart?
do you know why you do not seek anything beyond it?”
it is because you have not the Holy Spirit who could have risen you from the darkness in to His Light enlightening your soul to see the Son together with the Father manifesting Themselves to you, the Holy Spirit would have breathed in you a resurrection breath invigorating you, giving you life in Me;
can a soul who is dead understand Scriptures and put them into practice, if he is not alive?
If you would have understood the Scriptures that are as a mirror reflecting My Image, you would not have said:
” Scriptures are enough for me;”
no, My friend, Scriptures are not enough if you do not possess the Holy Spirit; it is through the Light of the Holy Spirit that Revelations can be understood..and impenetrable mysteries of Scriptures would become knowable and clear…
..I tell you truly: anyone who has willingly accepted Me, even now when I AM speaking, is blessed, because through Me he receives Knowledge and Wisdom in such a prodigious way that it is as though he has read all the Scriptures….’
For a long time I have often wondered how protestants who can rattle off Scripture verses like abc, can at the same time ‘spit’ out venom on their brothers and sisters-catholic. The reason is what the Lord showed me above.
My advice to all readers of this post, if you haven’t done so already, get a copy of the ‘True Life in God’ book – this is for the salvation of your soul, or for the sheer joy in hearing the Lord’s voice (nb. there is a lot of sadness too, for our sins, ofcourse)
The Lord bless you and keep you
Dear Joli,
Please dont repeat the vatican stories here. The Rosary and all the heavenly ‘revelations’ in …..
Did anyone say rosary in early church? did Mary used this rosary in her life?
Transubstantiation – can you show me this word in bible?
did Jesus say his mother will appear worldwide? and to follow his mother ?
Regarding your last post
“no, My friend, Scriptures are not enough if you do not possess the Holy Spirit; …..
I am sure you are not read bible .
Mathew 10:7 Go and proclaim this message: The kingdom of heaven is near.
Mark 16:15 Then he told them, “Go out to the whole world and proclaim the Good News to all creation.
Acts 5:20 “Go and stand in the Temple court and tell the people the whole of this living message.”
2 Corin 10:16 So we shall bring the Gospel to places beyond yours without entering into the field of others,
They proclaimed the Gospel and spread the Gospel. NOT traditions and man made rules and laws.
Jesus is going to judge us based on his words. NOT Pope’s words.
wake up man. cathoilc church will not going to save you. Rosary and scapular not going to save you. read the bible
If you are a Roman Catholic:
1. You must not eat meat during the time of lent
2. You must pray through Mary, because if you do, Jesus Christ her son is more likely to hear you than if you don’t.
3. You must acknowledge that Mary was bodily assumed into heaven and is now officially the queen of heaven.
4. You must acknowledge that Mary is forever the virgin, and that she never at any one time knew Joseph, her husband.
5. You must go to the confessional box and let the priest Roman Catholic priest forgive your sins.
6. You must pray with the rosary, every time you pray.
7. You must be baptized in order to be regenerated, this must esp. happen when you are an infant.
8. You must keep pleading through the dead saints, for they are now closer to Jesus than you are, and your prayers are more likely to be heard on time.
9. You must keep praying for your dead relatives, and conduct mass for them if you can, just in case they landed in purgatory, and you need to help them get out of there soonest possible.
10. You must attend mass.
11. You must agree that the bread you eat and the blood you drink in the Lord’s table has been consecrated by the presiding priest to be the real flesh and real blood of Jesus Christ. That the RC priest has got the power and authority to thus do.
12. You must believe that the Pope is the Vicar of Christ here on earth, and that he is keeper of the keys.
13. You must agree that the pope is infallible, that he makes no mistakes while he sits on Peter’s seat.
14. you must agree that the RC traditions and teachings, however how aberrant they may be, are superior to the teachings of scripture.
15. You must believe that if you are not a Roman Catholic, you are lost and you do not belong to the church.
16. You must be convinced that if you are not a Roman Catholic, you will not inherit the kingdom of heaven.
dear cathoilc friends …. read bible and hear the word of god…
Brother Murali , I am quite amused of your reply. Pardon me from saying you missed my point thousands of miles! I never stated in my letter we turn against God. Have you seen a single instant I made such declaration? Other writers before me openly challenges us to prove our belief of Mary (and why we honor Her), through some passages in the scripture because they believe we cannot show them anything. Mind you I am not a storyteller of fairy tales. What had been written has been supported by the biblical passages you asked us to provide; in order to justify our acceptance of Her and why we hold Her so dearly into our hearts. For your information, brother, history of our fore fathers are properly recorded, I wonder where did you get yours? I doubt you are knowledgeable to the history of our Church and fore fathers, because if you did, you will be guided accordingly.
It is not my intention to hurt someone’s feeling but the vicious attacked to other people’s faith especially to our Mother Church is deplorable. In Islam though they have denomination like us you cannot just openly attacked their faith in fear of reprisal. In other words, we should respect other people’s faith. And mind you brother, criticism started not on our side. Have you seen a priest openly criticize other Christian denomination? You can only find them outside our Church…like their favorite allegation we worship Mary; but the truth is we venerate and honor Mary. The accusation of She bore another sons from Joseph after Jesus; but the truth is they were the disciples of Jesus (the brethren of our Lord). The queen of heaven in Jeremiah; they referred it to Mary but Catholics knows it refers to Astoreth or Astarte the goddess of Canaanites, they think we are totally ignorant of that issue. The Holy Rosary they say repetitive prayers? All of these started to their teachers and preachers whose target to be converted came out from our own number.
Soul search brother, it is not late to accept Mary as your Mother to be rightfully called brother of Christ. I tell you truly, faith in Christ which does not include His Mother is another Christ. Jesus I trust in you. Oh’ Mary conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee!
Dear Joeli,
Your article (#1060); March 24, 2012; caught my attention, this is about calling a priest father: you mentioned, as I quote, “Several months ago, I opened the TLIG book at random during my early morning prayers, then I saw it. The Lord mentioned a Father… which put me at ease. I think it was the one and only instance in the whole book.†Joeli, like you I am Catholic, that’s why I am interested to know where I can find it and I shall consider it as additional knowledge I may learn from you. I have few verses I hold in believing, that the first Christian traditionally calls their leaders (disciples / priest) father, but these may surely be put to objections especially of our dear brothers of other denominations who will readily look in literal application. Because for all we know the exact application may not apply to the author calling himself “fatherâ€, while he was addressing the concerned recipient especially in writing. Like for example, if you insert the word ’father’ in this sentence “I am writing to you, my own children†it would be a little off to me, especially if you would not rephrase the whole sentence. There were few verses in the scripture that the first apostle/disciple addressing his new recruit, children, though we know for sure that he was referring to the member of his congregation. (1John2:1)†I am writing this, my children, to stop you sinning;†(1John2:12)â€I am writing to you, my own children, whose sin have already been forgiven through his name;†and, (1John2:18) “Children these are the last day:…†If apostle’s John address his members children it will be highly unlikely in return that his members doesn’t call him back ‘father’ of their faith. And by tradition been put in to practice up to this present time. Passed by the elders to their junior disciples: (Titus1:9) “And he must have a firm grasp of the unchanging message of the tradition, so that he can be counted on for both expounding the sound doctrine and refuting those who argue against it.†And, “2(Tim.2:15) “Stand firm, then, brothers, and hold the traditions that we taught you, whether by word of mouth or by letter.â€This is the same, in the first letter of Peter, (1Ptr5:13) “Your sister in Babylon, who is with you, sends you greeting; so does my son Mark.†I believe that the name Mark mentioned here is the same Mark who was with him during their journey in the Acts of the Apostles. This may be true that Peter was the first Pope “father “of the Universal Church. This is the same manner, when Paul addresses Timothy his son. (1Tim.1:18) “Timothy my son, these are my instruction that I am giving to you:â€
IN (2kings2:12) “ Elisha saw it, and shouted, ‘My father! My father! Chariot of Israel and its chargers!’ We know for sure that Elisha was a protégé of Elijah!
Joeli, I will be waiting to your favorable reply. Jesus I trust in you! Oh†Mary conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee!
@joeli:
A couple of things you need to answer and be aware:
(i) Who are the “protestants�
(ii) What were they protesting about?
(iii) Who was the protestant founder – Martin Luther?
Bible believing Christians do not “believe†extra biblical revelations that are not supported in scripture. They are simply revelations of the devil who has the ability to transform himself into an angel of Light. The revelations in the Bible are complete and sufficient and there are no more revelations that can be added to the scripture.
The Catholic doctrine of transubstantiation is false in view of 2 Corinthians 5:16 for it makes St.Paul a liar. Also it goes against the so-called “Apostle’s Creed†– which says … He (Jesus) ascended into heaven.. he will come to judge the living and the dead (Second coming). Is this not the prayer you recite in the Catholic Church? Now does Jesus really come into the white-wafer biscuit called the Host or Eucharist? Then can we truly say that Catholic priests are “black pagan magicians†who can virtually snatch Jesus from heaven at will just like how Alladin called out the Genie from his lamp? Heh! Heh!
All protestants, Christians honour Mary the mother of Jesus much like they equally honour the 12 Apostles of Jesus, All of who are saints in Heaven. Scripture instructs only worship should be given to God – (The Father, the Son (Jesus), and the Holy Spirit – the Trinity). Only Jesus is the interecessor/mediator between God and man. There is no proof in scripture that Salvation is thru Mary nor the Apostles but only thru Jesus.
Holy Spirit of God only indwells in Bible Believing Christians. The scriptures are the only source of Authority – nothing more or less. All Bible believing Christians are Saints and a royal priesthood in the Body of Christ.
You say the Protestants will very soon… yes you are right. The truth is revealed in the Bible in the Book of Revelation that Apostate Churches who broke away from the faith from the Gospel of Christ will be re-uniting to make way for the Anti-Christ to appear. The Biblical revelations or prophecy has never failed and now we are more in that age where the prophecy is taking shape.
God Bless.
Dear friend…
it is up to u if you did not believe to holy Mary .don’t judge her…the only one that know everything is God..who are you to tell about the truth? no one right?
for me I believe in rosary because I already found the miracle in rosary and BELIEVE is the key of this pray…
God Bless…
Hi, I would like to say something.. If you love your dad, you obviously would love ur dad’s mom(ur grandmom) too.. Same way, if we love Jesus, we have to love His mother(Mary) too, coz she brought him to earth, and thru Mary did Jesus performed His first miracle, at Cana.. We can’t separate Jesus from Mary, and also we can’t separate Mary from Jesus, as both their lives are intertwined with each other..
The Protestants are adept at learning the Bible by heart, but they fail to understand the finer aspects and nuances of the Bible, where the Catholics are adept at.. Catholics may not know the Bible by heart, but we are adept at understanding the Bible, which is where the Protestants fail..
It was the Protestants with their so called “intelligence and scholarly mind” broke away from the Catholic Church, and formed their own group.. Now if we see, then the Protestants themselves are divided into 35000 denominations, each modifying the Bible according to what they think is right, which is forbidden by God.. unlike Catholics who are united across the world.
As for Mary, who herself has been holy throughout her life since her birth, and was given the privilege of being the Mother of Son of God(Jesus) through the Holy Spirit, was herself chosen by God since the time of Adam and Eve, when they were banished…. so who are we to say anything about Mary? For God Himself knows everything, as is given that God’s weakness is very much stronger than the inherent strength of humans and His foolishness is beyond the understanding of human intellect..
Mary holds an important place in the Church and in the Holy Trinity, which is undeniable at all. Mary holds a special place in the Holy Trinity as well, as being the Chosen Daughter of God, the Favored Wife of Holy Spirit(as is given, the Holy Spirit will come upon you and you will conceive by the power of Holy Spirit), and the Holy Mother of Jesus…
She herself has appeared in many places across the world, from England to Mexico to Austria to India to Sri Lanka, and Poland, herself appearing to Sr Faustina, at the height of World War II, to warn mankind against their sins..
Need I say anything more… Let me know then…
If you want to believe, believe, and if not, then don’t.. But don’t be an obstacle to our faith, and don’t raise fingers on the Virgin Mary..
Am proud to be a Catholic, and to be part of a rich heritage and legacy, of Angels, Saints, Priests and Nuns..
If you love your father that doesn’t mean you love all your relatives. That is just silly.
Jesus is our brother not our father.
If you love you brother that won’t make you worship his mother.
If you love your brother you wouldn’t ask your mother for something your brother has, you would ask your brother.
Mary, bless her, is not a part of the Trinity. The trinity is God the Father, Son and Holy Spirit.
Mary is not the wife of the Holy Spirit, she was the wife of Joseph. It would be a sin for her to have married Joseph if she were married to another who was still living.
Jesus performed his first miracle through the power of God, not through Mary. Mary had no power to do anything other than ask, just like all the other people who asked Jesus for help.
The RCC is a schism which broke away from the church. Do check your history.
regards
Phil
Phil,
Your comments are flawed BIG TIME as we say in Texas. Mary asked and Jesus went against His own timing. That is her power. It is from God but God has given her that role, so she does indeed have a special power…….given by God. So don’t ignore it. Don’t throw the baby away with the bathwash applies to the mother also. At least you are not lukewarm which Jesus told Faustina was the reason He asked to “let this cup pass.” The Divine Mercy Diary she compiled is awesome in learning about Jesus.
You care and that is at least half the battle, but you are often wrong. The RCC is a great gift to the world Jesus said I will not leave you orphans. The RCC has apostolic succession. The protestants have only two of seven sacraments and we all need them all. Satan has gotten into the church and those who left are left without much of what Jesus gave us. Satan is also in the RCC but he is everywhere. He is even in our emails. He is clever. But Jesus is Lord. And his mercy is a thing of AWE. Get the diary.
peace,
Mike
For you brothers and sisters who choose to disbelieve my post of 1106, its on your head now. Its obvious that the Holy Spirit is not in you, not my conclusion, the Lord’s.
Another warning the Lord gives for those who disbelieve True Life in God. He says that you should judge a Tree by its fruit. If you see the fruits of True Life in God in the world today, and you still disbelieve, you will be blespheming against the Holy Spirit.
You should know what that means.
The Lord says that His Hymn of Love will spread through the world like the Morning Mist. It will cover the whole earth. The Body of Christ will be ONE as in the days of old.
The Father warns:
‘….woe to those who do not welcome Me in simplicity of heart..but calls evil good, and good evil; who substitute darkness for light, and light for darkness…My Spirit seeing their selfish intentions will divorce them from Me….’
Celestino, I can’t find that section again. I know that the Lord called the priest ‘Father’.. as if it was a name, not a title.
To be truthful, I am very uncomfortable with it even now after 7 years.
If I should find it, I will post again.
Phil,
As I said, since you are not a RCC, you wouldn’t understand the finer aspects of the Bible….. And you need to read the Gospel well, as it is clearly mentioned that Mary conceived thru the power of the Holy Spirit.. So Mary is not one of the Holy Trinity, but is connected to it, and has a special place in the Church and in the Trinity….
Anyways, as Mike says “Your comments are flawed BIG TIME”, you need to clear your basic concepts on the Gospel first, before arguing on anything…
And as I said, the Protestants broke away from RCC…and now they are like a divided house, divided against themselves, so you won’t really understand anything much, unless you are willing to accept the facts and understand.. This goes for all those who are arguing out here..
Ralph.
The things you say in Texas are pretty stupid then.
Mary asked Jesus to do something and he did it. Another time Jesus went off and his parents didn’t know where he was. Why is the one event more important to you than the other?
Mary had a son, Jesus, who was taken from her and was replaced with another son. This is stated quite clearly in scripture.
Mary didn’t need a special power to ask Jesus for something. The bible has quite a few people doing that. The Samaritan woman went to Jesus, he told her that he had come to the Jews and it was not write to give what was for the Jews (the children) to a samaritan (a dog). The woman prevailed because of her faith and got what she came for. She wasn’t his mother but she got Jesus to do what he appeared not willing to do.
Oddly you do not worship her, you do not make images of her and put them in your temples and you do not pray to her. Yet she got more than Mary from Jesus and she didn’t have the advantage of being his mother, or even a Jew.
Leaving that point behind, there is no indication in scripture that anyone who wasked Jesus to do something and got what they wanted therefore had some carte blanche to get whatever they wanted from him. Jesus is shown to reject the demands of Mary as well in the scripture. Did you not know that?
“46 While Jesus was still talking to the crowd, his mother and brothers stood outside, wanting to speak to him. 47 Someone told him, “Your mother and brothers are standing outside, wanting to speak to you.†48 He replied to him, “Who is my mother, and who are my brothers?†49 Pointing to his disciples, he said, “Here are my mother and my brothers. 50 For whoever does the will of my Father in heaven is my brother and sister and mother.â€
So what Mary wanted didn’t matter then did it?
The problem is that RCs see any attempt to argue againist the false doctrines that it has about Mary as some attack on Mary. We make no attack on Mary, we attack the false mariology of the RCC.
Nobody in scripture ever sought Mary to intercede for them with Jesus. They did not call her the Queen of Heaven, nor the Bride of the Holy Spirit nor did they ascribe to her all the other silliness that the RCC does.
When one considers that Mary was long dead by the time much of the NT was written just why is it that all those RC titles are not mentioned? Why doesn’t Paul suggest praying to Mary? Why doesn’t Peter?
Mary has a special place in History, as does Abraham and so does Moses, so does Joseph, etc etc All these people were chosen by God to perform some task or tasks. They are rightly honoured as heroes of faith. But they are not “special” in any way they are prefectly normal people who were used by God.
I’d be ahppy to go through the gospel verse by verse with you. We both know that by using just the scriptures you cannot support the doctrines you espouse. Indeed some of your dogma wasn’t even necessary to believe for a RC until after 1850.
There is no shadow of turning with God because He is the truth. The RCC twists and turns, saying yes to something and later saying no to the same thing. The Popes have a long history of lying, drunkeness, whoring, murder etc etc and you wish us to say that these men are the best men God could find to be the earthly head of the church? The bible says that no murderer has eternal life in them and yet you say that they do. I must ignore you then and trust in God.
regards
Phil
Hi folks, I respect Mother Mary but do not pray to her, you ask why? Coz she has passed away and her soul amongst the dead. To me Jesus is God himself in human form who shed his blood to wash away our sins, who gave his life on the cross and rose up the third day conquering death. The Bible clearly says do not pray to any one else other than to Jesus. Asking Mother Mary to tell Jesus to accomplish something while she was alive and Jesus before crucifiction was ok since they were both physically present here but now Mary has died and her soul in paradise and Jesus has risen up to be fully God, God does not have a mother or Father. If anyone prays to Mother Mary or the saints, they cannot hear your prayers but instead Satan will pose as them and take your worship and even grant some miracles so that we move away from God. We should definitely respect Mother Mary but should not be praying to her. If God wanted us to pray to anyone else he would have let us know that but the Bible clearly says only Jesus , only his Blood can wash away sins, only he is Almighty and Holy, Amen!
Phil,
As I said earlier, before arguing about Mary and RCC and other similar things, you first need to clear your basic concepts of the Bible.. Your posts only indicate your knowledge of the Bible..
Phil & Believer well said
@ Ralph :For me Bible knowledge is enough for salvation. I dont know about you.
@ Celestina : Oh’ Mary conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee!
If Mary conceived without sin, then we have to assume her parents also sinless people , if her parents are sinless then Mary’s grandparents also sinless ………
Celestina… r u christian or catholic?
Rgds
In support of my post 1105, the Lord showed me this Message a few minutes ago.
‘..today again I cry out from Heaven;
” brothers, why are you undermining My Divinity? if you claim that you are the ones who know what is right, then why is your spirit plundering My Church ?
I AM inviting you to reign with Me…I AM inviting you to celebrate Mass and partake of the Divine Mystery in the manner I truly initiated;”
I AM present in My Eucharist, but unless they see My Divinity with spiritual eyes, they will continue to be like a drowsing man who never grasp anything you tell him…
..kingly and glorious these churches proclaim Me, they affirm My Might proclaiming My fearful power, singing their praises to Me, acknowledging My Omnipotence and My mighty wonders, but I become a stumbling stone when it comes to measure the magnificence of My Divinity and of My Presence in the Eucharist;
..today this is the stumbling stone rejected by the builders and they do not realise it is the keystone…soon I shall let the dragon eat its own tail…
..I will re-erect My Eucharist in the houses that have been despoiled of My Presence and they shall become holy….you have been pillaged from My Sovereignty, razed to the ground by the dragon, yet, I tell you, I tell you all:
My Spirit will be poured out on the earth to drench it with the dew of heaven, and the grass of the earth will be greener, and the trees will bloom and their foliage will be beautiful and their fruit abundant….’
( 16.10.2000 )
The message to ALL protestant denominations is clear.
Re-erect the Eucharist in your Holy Communion – bring back Transubstantiation
The Lord’s Message in post 1122 is taken from True Life in God – message of 16.10.2000.
Transubstantiation. What do the RCC mean by that phrase? Do they mean that Christ is present in the eucharist? well how can we detect the presence of God in bread and wine?
Does the bread and wine still rot? still taste, look and react exactly like bread and wine? Is it in any way changed physically? Of course not, even the RCC admits that.
So if the bread and wine are physically the same as before and will the stay the same afterwards what can we understand from the words of Jesus regarding the eucharist?
“This is my body, broken for you” Did Jesus mean that the bread they could see was actually part of his body? that the wine had become blood?
Well when talking of the wine, and after saying it was his blood, Jesus said it was “the fruit of the vine” so he didn’t think it wasn’t wine any more did he?
Now we have a little technical problem so bear with me why I explain how it shows that the RCC doesn’t believe what it says.
The RCC claims that transubstatiation is participation in the sacrifice of Christ on the cross so, they say, Christ is not crucified again but they are partaking in the one sacrifice when they have their eucharist.
So what do we know about the original sacrifice? Well it was a sacrifice that involved the shedding of blood, in theological terms this is called a “bloody sacrifice” as opposed to an “unbloody sacrifice” where no blood is shed.
So what kind was the cross? A bloody sacrifice. So, if the RCC believes that the eucharist is that selfsame sacrifice then it must be a bloody sacrifice? (Still with me?)
But what does the RCC teach about the eucharist?
It says that it is doing what Christ did at the Last Supper. BUT there was no sacrifice at the Last Supper, no blood was shed at the Last Supper. So since there was no blood shed there cannot have been a true sacrifice at the Last Supper. Therefore if the Priest is making a sacrifice he is doing something other than that which Christ did at the Last Supper.
So the RCC is doubly confused, it says it offers a sacrifice for sins by repeating an event where no sacrifice for sins took place. Not only that it admits that the eucharist is an unbloody sacrfice and yet claims it can forgive sin but without the shedding of blood there is no forgiveness of sins.
Transubstantiation is an invention of the RCC, it had people killed for not believing in it and yet until 1215 it didn’t even form part of the RCCs Articles of Faith!
Why would we believe what the RCC didn’t and which makes no sense and in which the RCC contradicts itself?
regards
Phil
@Babu,
Yes, am a Christian, but am proud to be a Catholic..
And finally I would like to say, if people don’t want to accept simple truths and wish to be ignorant, then yes, no amount of explanation would help, and also there wouldn’t be any dearth of excuses given to us.. As is given in the Bible Mt 7:6-“Do not give dogs what is holy, and do not throw your pearls before pigs, lest they trample them underfoot and turn to attack you.” So in the same way as no amount of understanding would make you understand, its better to leave you guys alone. ANd as is given in the Bible in the book of Romans 14:13 “Therefore let us not pass judgment on one another any longer, but rather decide never to put a stumbling block or hindrance in the way of a brother.” and in the Gospel, “Woe to those who prove to be a stumbling block in the faith of others”, so its better you guys don’t question our faith and belief, because history is proof that the Protestants broke away from the catholic church, and that they themselves now a like a divided house.. These things require common sense to understand, not rocket science…
By their righteous lives Joachim and Anna please God so much that He considered them worthy enough to be the parents of the Most Holy Virgin, the fore-ordained Mother of the Lord. From only this it is clear that their life was holy, God-pleasing, and pure, for from them was born the Daughter, Holiest of all the saints, pleasing to God more than all the others, and more honorable than the Cherubim. There were on the earth at that time no people more pleasing to God by their pure lives, than Joachim and Anna. Although at the time it was possible to find many living righteously and pleasing to God, these two surpassed all others by their virtues and appeared before God as the most worthy to bear the Mother of God. Such mercy would not have been granted to them by God, if they did not indeed surpass all others in righteousness and holiness. But since the Lord Himself had to be incarnated of a Most Holy and Most Pure Mother, it was likewise fitting that the Mother of God descend from holy and pure parents. Just as earthly kings have their purples made, not from plain material, but gold-brocaded, so also did the Heavenly King wish to have His Most Pure Mother, in the body of which, as in a royal purple, He was to clothe Himself, born not of ordinary incontinent parents, as of plain material, but of chaste and holy ones, as of gold-brocaded material, the type of which was the Old Testament tabernacle, which God ordered Moses to construct of crimson and scarlet material and of fine linen. (Exodus 27:16) “And for the gate of the court shall be an hanging of twenty cubits, of blue, and purple, and scarlet, and fine twined linen, wrought with needlework: and their pillars shall be four, and their sockets four.” This tabernacle prefigured the Virgin Mary, taking up His abode in Whom, God came to “live with men”, as it is written: “behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them (Rev. 21:3).” The crimson and scarlet material and the linen from which the tabernacle was made, prefigured the parents of the Mother of God, Who was descended from and born of chastity and continence, as of crimson and scarlet raiment, and of their perfection in the fulfillment of every commandment of God, as of fine linen. But these holy spouses were, by the will of God, childless for a long time – in order that in the conception and birth of such a daughter would be manifested the power of the grace of God, as well as the honor of the One Born, and the worthiness of the parents: for it is impossible for a barren and aged woman to bear in any other way but by the power of the grace of God; here nature is no longer active, but God Who overcomes the laws of nature and destroys the bonds of barrenness. To be born of barren and aged parents is a great honor to the One Born as well, because She is born not of incontinent parents but of continent and aged ones, such as were Joachim and Anna, who lived fifty years in marriage and had no children. Finally, through such a birth the worthiness of the parents themselves is also revealed, since they, after a long barrenness, gave birth to the joy of all the world, in such a way likened to the patriarch Abraham and his devout wife Sarah, who by the promise of God bore Isaac in old age (Genesis 21:2) “For Sarah conceived, and bare Abraham a son in his old age, at the set time of which God had spoken to him.” However, it can be said without doubt that the nativity of the Mother of God was superior to the birth of Isaac to Abraham and Sarah. As much as the Virgin Mary is Herself born above and more worthy of honor than Isaac, so likewise are Joachim and Anna greater and higher in worthiness than Abraham and Sarah. They did not achieve that virtue all at once but only after they had prayed to God for this with diligent fasting and prayer, in mental sorrow and with grieving hearts: and their grief was turned into joy, while their disgrace appeared as the herald of a great honor, their assiduous petition appeared as a guidance for the receiving of blessings, and their prayer as the best intercession.
Joachim and Anna were sorrowful and wept long over their childlessness. Once, on a great feastday, Joachim was bringing gifts to the Lord God in the temple of Jerusalem; together with Joachim all of the Israelites were also bringing their gifts in offering to God. Issachar, who was the high priest at that time, did not want to accept the offerings of Joachim because he was without children.
“Your gifts,” he said, “must not be accepted because you do not have children, and hence, do not have the blessing of God: most likely you have some secret sins.”
Likewise, a Hebrew from the tribe of Reuben, bringing his gifts together with the others, reproached Joachim, saying:
Why do you want to bring sacrifices to God before Me? Do you not know that you are not worthy to bring gifts together with us, since you know no descent in Israel?”
Yet to the patriarchs of the Israelite nation had repeatedly been given by God the promise of the multiplying of their descendants; therefore, the Israelites regarded a multitudinous posterity as the highest fortune and blessing of God. On the other hand, by the ancient promise of God, the Israelites hoped to find among their descendants the “seed of the woman” promised by God, the Messiah. This is why among the Hebrews childlessness was considered as a terrible misfortune and punishment for sins, and the people who did not have children the Hebrews regarded as great sinners. These reproaches grieved Joachim very much, and he with great sorrow left the temple of God disgraced and humiliated, and the feastday turned into grief for him, while the festal joy changed into sorrow. Deeply sorrowing, he did not return home, but departed into the desert to the shepherds, tending their flocks, and wept there over his infertility and over the abuses and reproaches made against him. Having remembered Abraham, his forefather, to whom in extreme old age God granted a son, Joachim began diligently praying to the Lord that he also be honored with such benevolence, that He hear his prayer, have mercy on him, and take away from him the abuses of the people, that He grant him in old age the fruit of his marriage, as was done at one time to Abraham.
“May I have,” he prayed, “the possibility of being called the father of a child, and not childless and rejected by God to suffer the reproaches of the people.”
Joachim added a fast to this prayer and for forty days did not partake of bread.
“I will not eat,” he said, “and will not return to my home; let my tears be my nourishment, and the desert my home, until the Lord God of Israel hearkens and takes this defamation away from me”
In the very same way his wife also, being