Why should we pray to Virgin Mary? The reasons are many.
Why do Catholics pray to Mother Mary? Is Rosary really powerful?
The intercession of Mother Mary is very powerful as Jesus cannot neglect His mothers commands.This can be proved by the first miracle Jesus did at the wedding at Cana. – (John 2:1-11). Mother Mary told Jesus “They have no more wine.” And what was the final result? He turned water into wine.
In “The Poem of the Man-God” by Maria Valtorta, she says that Jesus told her about this incident as “I did it for Mary”. This proves that the intercession of Mother Mary is very very strong.
Mother Mary was blessed with Holy Spirit abundantly. We can see this as we read “At that time Mary got ready and hurried to a town in the hill country of Judea, where she entered Zechariah’s home and greeted Elizabeth. When Elizabeth heard Mary’s greeting, the baby leaped in her womb, and Elizabeth was filled with the Holy Spirit.” (Luke 1:39-41) ; just by Virgin Mary’s greeting.
Listen to the talk from Apologetics on Mary, Purgatory and The Bible
What the angels thought on this matter:-
When angel appeared before Zechariah,father of John, angel just greets him by his name ,nothing more although he was “upright in the sight of God, observing all the Lord’s commandments and regulations blamelessly.” – (Luke 1:6)
When angel appeared before Joseph, the greeting was like this: “an angel of the Lord appeared to him in a dream and said, “Joseph son of David, do not be afraid to take Mary home as your wife, because what is conceived in her is from the Holy Spirit.” – (Matthew 1:20). Angel greeted him ‘son of david’, thats all.
Now let us see how did the angel greet Virgin Mary. It goes like this: “The angel went to her and said, “Greetings, you who are highly favored! The Lord is with you.” (Luke 1:28). See the difference….
Also read the article Mary, The Mystical Rose
Dear Liam, as Jenifer said, show me one single verse saying we need mediators other than Jesus.
show me one verse saying Mary is sinless.
show me one verse showing Paul,Peter,John prayed to mary…
Please don’t type thousand lines… just come to the point.
Even if 3 billion believe in one lie that doesn’t become a truth..
Open the bible and follow the savior not sinners.
God bless you
Hello Patricia,(#751)
Jennifer’s talking based on Bible not RCC manual. Read the bible first then come here.
God bless you.
you guys still don’t understand the whole context of the Bible. How was those various books of the Bible written. Who wrote Genesis, no human lived before God’s creation work. It was the tradition by which generation by generation people brought down these memories. Then by the Holy Spirit these traditions took Scriptural form. This goes for all the books of the Bible.
The Gospel of St. Mark was not written by some one in Jesus’s time, it is found that he was a disciple of St. Paul. and the Gospel of St. John concludes with the conformation that all that our Lord did was not written the book, He did so many things that the heavens and the earth will not be enough to write those things, and these things are what we call Holy Traditions . Holy Traditions play a major role in the formation of the Bile. You people will never understand these things coze the satan has control over your brains, But we Catholics how much ever you offend us and our Beloved Mother we are always praying for you all.
God bless and please pray with open hearts to receive Gods grace.
You need to get a history book not written by a RC. The Reformation wasn’t a movement but several movements and there were such movements before and after Luther.
If you claim that Luther was a RC and still is then you are disagreeing with the Pope.
The RC never was the whole church, indeed the Orthodox will show you that the RCC is a schism and not the true church.
Despite the wholesale murder of Christians the RCC lost control of the people and they were then able to discover for themselves the corruption, wickedness and dishonesty in the RCC.
The idea that the RCC gave the world the bible is a delusional idea that only an indoctrinated RC could believe.
But instead of honouring God, who inspired the scriptures, you choose to honour the men that God used to compile them? How odd.
You claim that Mary is both the Mother and the Spouse of God which is clearly wrong and such a relationship is abusrd. Mary neither mothered God in the traditional sense since God did not grow in her but the Man Christ Jesus did.
As for being the Spouse of God, if being the Mother of Jesus makes her the Spouse of God then you have made Joseph an adulterer who slept with another’s wife while the other was still alive. Indeed it makes Mary an adulteress because she was espoused to Joseph when she was got pregnant by the Holy Spirit.
The more RC doctrine one admits the more confused you see that the RCC is. If the Pope has all the power and authority of Peter and nothing else then he has nothing much at all. Peter was not head of the church at Jerusalem (James was) nor anywhere else and was rebuked by Paul for hypocrisy.
Jesus came to destroy sin therefore it is illogical to believe that he would allow himself to be conceived and born in a person of sin.After all it was the Holy Ghost who spiritually impregnated Mary and as a result God the Word became man.
Sorry to say but the truth is the truth and it can hurt…It would appear that persons of your mentality known as ‘bible thumpers’are so intoxicated by contents of ‘the Bible’- a so called bible, far removed from the authentic one, that you make a mockery of Christianity.
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The Immaculate Mother of God.
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In Genesis the ‘seed’ of the ‘woman’ is Jesus.
Mary is the ‘woman’.
In Isaiah(7:14)refers to ‘The Virgin- Mother of Immanuel'(God with us).
Also ‘Immanuel’ is referred to as the future
Saviour of His people (Is 8:8-9)
Micah(5:2-3)foretells the birth of Our Saviour
In Bethlehem.
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(Note the connection of the term ‘woman’ in Genesis and its use by Jesus when he assigned his Mother,Mary,to be the mother of all mankind prior to his death.)
Only egoism or religious deformation denies the truth about our Mystical Rose. Attacks upon or denial of the important role of Mary in our salvation as willed by God and contained in the full Bible and secret tradition is the way to Hell.
Hi Patricia,
If you can read my comment clearly there is a substance and a question to you people. Please answer it first then you can speak about us. If you are not able to answer then accept the truth.
The Spirit leads us beyond…!
The truth is that all sincere believers are led to a deeper knowledge and love of Christ by the Holy Spirit (cf Eph 3:16-19).And if we do not limit our knowledge to the contents of scripture alone we will grow in depth.We will see that Mary is at the very centre of God’s plan because she was full of grace therefore sinless.That plan is to make us children of God and co-heirs of Christ by the Spirit given to us (cf Gal 4:4-6).Devotion then that is true to revelation,leads us to share the love and honour given by God’s Son to his Mother whom he has given to us as our spiritual Mother.
Mr. Jibson
First and foremost this is a ROMAN CATHOLIC site and YOU should not be here in the first place.
Who the hell are you to tell me that what I say is like a RCC manual.
Your Protestant bibles stem from the Roman Catholic Bible and you guys have taken what you’ll felt like to suit your own thinking.
Whole bunch of SATAN’S ADVOCATES you all are.
Pls dont say God Bless……….defaming the Mother of God and then trying to bless………..like two headed serpents.
For all my Roman Catholic friends and Christians who respect Our Blessed Mother………
What man needs, what he must have, is what God sends him. Man cannot receive a greater need than what God decides when He fills that need. Man today needs a mother. The world needs a mother. God is filling that need with His best. His Mother is completeness in filling what the human heart yearns for. To be in the arms of She, Who held Him, the Christ. You are to be in Her arms. God desires this. Our Lady desires this. The whole world is placed in Her maternal care. You can come and be in the presence of She, your Mother, your Queen, Who will soothe all your concerns, meet all your needs, and fill your heart with a peace you’ve never known before. Tell all. Speak to everyone. Our Lady comes to three nations to meet you individually to kiss your heart and satisfy it’s longing. Come and give your heart away.
Now all this discussion is for our good, nothing negative, but to understand and learn from our experiences. But do not say that the Catholic Bible is wrong, since you tend to become a Hypocrite, because all Bibles are derived/plagiarized/manipulated from the original/first Bible that was from the Catholic Church. So do not quote to the master itself, being a lost child yourself – all these denominations that we talk about.
Now, Catholics devotion to Mother Mary is often forgotten by Catholics themselves, and therefore it is not surprising that those who are not Catholic often have a completely wrong conception of Catholic devotion to the Mother of God. They imagine, and sometimes we can understand their reasons for doing so, that Catholics treat the Blessed Virgin as an almost divine being in her own right, as if she had some glory, some power, some majesty of her own that placed her on a level with Christ Himself. They regard the Assumption of Mary into heaven as a kind of apotheosis placed in the Redemption would seem to be equal to that of her Son. *** But this is all completely contrary to the true mind of the Catholic Church.*** It forgets that Mary’s chief glory is in her nothingness, in the fact of being the “Handmaid of the Lord,” as one who in becoming the Mother of God acted simply in loving submission to His command, in the pure obedience of faith. She is blessed not because of some mythical pseudo-divine prerogative, but in all her human and womanly limitations as one who has believed. It is the faith and the fidelity of this humble handmaid, “full of grace” that enables her to be the perfect instrument of God, and nothing else but His instrument. The work that was done in her purely the work of God. “He that is mighty hath done great things in me.” The glory of Mary is purely and simply the glory of God in her. and she, like anyone else, can say that she has nothing that she has not received from Him through Christ.
As a matter of fact, this is precisely her greatest glory: that having nothing of her own, retaining nothing of a “self” that could glory in any- thing for her own sake, she placed no obstacle to the mercy of God and in no way resisted His love and His will. Hence she received more from Him than any other saint. he was able to accomplish His will perfectly in her, and His liberty was in no way hindered or turned from its purpose by the presence of an egotistical self in Mary. She was and is in the highest sense a person precisely because, being “immaculate,” she was free from every taint of selfishness that might obscure God’s light in her being. She was then a freedom that obeyed Him perfectly and in this obedience found the fulfill- ment of perfect love.
The genuine significance of Catholic devotion to Mary is to be seen in the light of the Incarnation itself. The Church cannot separate the Son and the Mother. Because the Church conceived of the Incarnation as God’s descent into flesh and into time, and His great gift of Himself to His creatures, she also believes that the one who was closest to Him in this great mystery was the one who participated most perfectly in the gift. When a room is heated by an open flame, surely there is nothing strange in the fact that those who stand closest to the fireplace are the ones who are warmest. And when God comes into the world through the instrumentality of one of His servants, then there is nothing surprising about the fact that His chosen instrument should have the greatest and most intimate share in the divine gift.
Mary, who was empty of all egotism, free from all sin, was as pure as the glass of a very clean window that has no other function than to admit the light of the sun (Son). If we rejoice in that light, we implicitly praise the cleanness of the window. And of course it might be argued that in such a case we might well forget the window altogether. This is true. And yet the Son of God, in emptying Himself of His majestic power, having become a child, abandoning Himself in complete dependence to the loving care of a human Mother, in a certain sense draws our attention once again to her. The Light has wished to remind us of the window, because He is grateful to her and because He has an infinitely tender love, it is certainly a great grace and a privilege, and one of the most important aspects of this privilege is that it enables us to some extent to appreciate the mystery of God’s great love and respect for His creatures.
That God should assume Mary into heaven is not just a glorification of a “Mother Goddess.” Quite the contrary, it is the expression of the divine love for humanity, and a very special manifestation of God’s respect for His creatures, His desire to do honor to the beings He has made in His own image, and most particularly His respect for the body which was destined to be the temple of His glory. If Mary is believed to be assumed into heaven, it is because we too are one day, by the grace of God, to dwell where she is. If human nature is glorified in her, it is because God desires it to be glorified in us too, and it is for this reason that His Son, taking flesh, came into the world.
In all the great mystery of Mary, then, one thing remains most clear: that of herself she is nothing, and that God has for our sakes delighted to manifest His glory and His love in her.
It is because she is, of all the saints, the most perfectly poor and the most perfectly hidden, the one who has absolutely nothing whatever that she attempts to possess as her own, that she can most fully communicate to the rest of us the grace of the infinitely selfless God. And we will most truly possess Him when we have emptied ourselves and become poor and hidden as she is, resembling Him by resembling her.
And all our sanctity depends on her maternal love. The ones she desires to share the joy of her own poverty and simplicity, the ones whom she wills to be hidden as she is hidden, are the ones who share her closeness to God.
If any of you do not believe in her ‘Yes’ leave her alone, but do not tarnish her, since She is the Mother of the One who died for you on the Cross. Talk ill about her, you talk ill about Her Son, which is turn is talking ill about the One who sent Him.
God Bless You All.
I’m not here to put down anybody, but please put forth facts or valid discussion points. Also do not use strong words.
First, make sure who is a christian as per Bible. Read below
” Acts 11:26 And the disciples were called Christians first in Antioch”
Now you tell me who is a christian? Mary’s follower or Jesus’s follower?
Dear Patricia Lewis,
Can you show me one verse saying Mother mary is my mother , my queen?
See what Paul said
Romans 16:13 Greetings to Rufus, elected of the Lord, and his mother who was a second mother to me.
Here Paul not referring to Mother Mary.
Patricia… r u listening?
Jesus never told anyone that his mother will visit every year and give new commands to us. Read what Mary said( this is the ONLY command she given to us )
John 2:5 However his mother said to the servants, “Do whatever he tells you.”
Jesus was there before Mary and Abraham.
John 8:58 And Jesus said “Truly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I am.”
Read the below also
Hebrews 7:3 There is no mention of father, mother or genealogy; nothing is said about the beginning or the end of his life. In this he is the figure of the Son of God, the priest who remains forever.
Rgds
Jennifer you call that SUBSTANCE of what you have written……..pls dont make me laugh. Satan is already laughing and feeling happy that he is getting you slowly and the rest of you are following.
We Roman Catholics will continue to pray for you and your followers to see the TRUTH.
Mary was blessed by God, just as all mothers are, but she recieved a greater gift from God. Like all gifts it was not given because it was deserved but because God is gracious and gives gifts to whom He pleases.
You have confused being chosen by God as being special and therefore chosen. Moses was nothing special, nor Abram, nor David nor any of the people that God chose.
Peter was nothing special, nor Paul nor any other NT Saint. The donkey that carried Jesus wasn’t special either. The only worthy things in this world are what God makes possible by His totally undeserved grace.
You see in the OT backsliders, adulterers and murderers used by God. You see this also in the NT and yet in one case, and one case only, you decide that the person that God used was deserving of the Grace that she recieved.
What is there recorded of Mary that makes you think that she was sinless? There is nothing in any scripture to indicate that Mary was sinless or especially holy or especially anything. She clearly did not know the will of God any more than anyone else did.
@Phil.. WELL SAID
In the Book of Proverbs the Holy Spirit addresses Mary:” Many daughters have gathered together but you have surpassed them all”.(31:29).
In the Song of Solomon the Spirit says:”One is my dove;my perfect one is but one,flawless to her that bore her” (6:7)
Now if not Mary then who was the Holy Ghost referring to?
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Mary was full of ‘grace’as the word of God (The Bible)confirms.Grace is a participation in the divine nature.This does not mean that a part or a fraction of God Himself is given to the soul.There can be no fractioning in the unity of the Divine Being.
What it does mean is that there is ‘worked’ in the creature,by the action of the Spirit,’a perfection’ which bears a resemblance to,is modelled on,the divine nature.It is a perfection which has its source and principle in the ‘divine nature itself’.(Please pray and reflect upon!)
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Phil (767)Where in holy scripture it says that Mary was a sinner?
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AND PHIL I HOPE YOU ARE NOT AS IGNORANT AS SOME OF YOUR COMMENTS IMPLY!
Luther was a Catholic priest and although he is no longer a Catholic for he was a leading figure in the so called reformation (really a deformation when one considers the multi-state of protestantism today)I am of the opinion that if a person takes an oath at ordination that inspite of ones betrayal of that oath ‘once a priest always a priest’.An oath to God is of high importance and not to be overthrown by any ordained Catholic Priest.
Phil,(756)
Jesus Christ was both God and man.As God he was the Word of The Blessed Trinity-the 2nd Person.And as man he bore the genes of his earthly Mother, Mary.
As an ‘apparent bible thumper’ your knowledge of sacred scripture is minimal or satanic infiltrated.
In fact those sincere pursuers of the truth in this debate,from different positions, in a way, are having upon reading the above a good laugh or being ashamed.
The Song of Solomen is about the love between a man and a woman, unless you are saying that Mary was black? and that all the other things are also true of her?
Could you show me where the bible says Mary was full of grace? As far as I can tell that phrase is applied only to Jesus in John 1:14.
As to Mary being a sinner, Paul (quoting God speaking in the OT) writes “there is none righteous, no, not one. After Jesus was born what did Mary do? She had to undergo “purification” according to Luke’s gospel and to make a sacrifice of 2 doves as per the Law. Leviticus 12 tells us that this was an offering for sin, an atonement for sin.
So the OT tells us and the NT tells us that Mary was a sinner, knew she was a sinner and did what she had to do as a sinner under the Law.
Luther didn’t break an oath with God, he broke an oath made whilst under the sway of heretics who teach that men must not marry if they are to be priests. This is wrong on 2 counts. The NT teaches that priests must be the husband of one wife therefore they must marry and secondly the NT tells us not to swear oaths James 5:12 explicitly forbids it.
So who should we obey man or God? God says no oaths and the RCC says oaths!
Liam I note that your only abilities appear to be posting insults and making sweeping unsupported slanders.
So we both agree that Jesus was human and had a human nature and that he got his genes at least partly (probably anyway since the scriptures don’t say) from Mary.
That doesn’t make Mary the Mother of God nor the Spouse of God. Unless you are now saying that one can be a mother to someone who predates your existence?
Well said Phil.
Hi Patricia,
#760 – As God says in Isaiah 49:15, God’s love is greater than mother’s love. I would suggest you first read the bible, don live on your own beliefs then you can come and write insulting comments.
You must read the Bible properly. It was Jesus who was taken for purification.Gospel according to St. Luke Ch2 22-24. Read it carefully. He was taken for purification not She. And the offering of doves and pigeons were offerings on the behalf of the first born and not sin offering. don’t give such false interpretation about the Bible. and don’t call yourself nose deep in the Bible. what Patricia told was and is (and i don’t want it to continue) controlled by satan. And stop calling Her a sinner, it grieves all of our hearts when you call our Mother like that (period)!
Jennifer,
God’s love is not greater bt the Greatest and do remember that God exalted Mother’s love over there. it is ‘can a mother forget her nursing child……. ?’ its like a question to reflect upon that God gives us, and then He says even that happens ‘I will not forget you’ it is the Mother’s love that is great but God’s Love is even greater. I really pity on you people who accuse Catholics for not following the Scriptures but give false interpretations about It. surly you are under the hood of the satan that is your eyes can’t see the Scriptures properly and your mind can’t interpret is correctly.
Hail Mary……..
Glory to GOD
Phil.
I am sorry if you feel insulted but the truth can hurt.
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Oh thee of little faith!
What you have now stated above is contrary to the Bible.
Rather surprising when earlier you stated that we must adhere to the Bible only.
I would suggest that you reflect upon the statement of Jesus when he stated ‘I and the Father are one…’
Apparently Jennifer is in the same dilemma as yourself.I assure you that you are both being prayed for by me at this very moment.
Phil,
Judge not and you shall not be judged.Nothing meant personally but the truth can at times hurt.There are many out there who are hurt by the sayings of Jesus.
Go to your Bible and let me know what Jesus meant when he said ‘I and the father are one’.
Apparently Jennifer shares the unreality and the same or similar delemmas as yourself so I will at this moment pray for you both.Please pray for me.
It isn’t the truth that hurts and you insults don’t either. They are just rudeness and slander. Like my master I expect to be insulted and slandered and I forgive those that do it :-)
With regards to George’s comment that the purification was for Jesus there are a few issues.
1) Jesus did not need to be purified
2) Jesus did not need to atone for his own sin
3) The scripture says it was for the mother to have her sin atoned for.
4) The Law says it was for the mother to be purifed.
Leviticus 12
5But if she bear a maid child, then she shall be unclean two weeks, as in her separation: and she shall continue in the blood of her purifying threescore and six days.
6And when the days of her purifying are fulfilled, for a son, or for a daughter, she shall bring a lamb of the first year for a burnt offering, and a young pigeon, or a turtledove, for a sin offering, unto the door of the tabernacle of the congregation, unto the priest:
7Who shall offer it before the LORD, and make an atonement for her; and she shall be cleansed from the issue of her blood. This is the law for her that hath born a male or a female.
8And if she be not able to bring a lamb, then she shall bring two turtles, or two young pigeons; the one for the burnt offering, and the other for a sin offering: and the priest shall make an atonement for her, and she shall be clean.
This we can say
Who was unclean? The mother
Who maded sacrifice? The Mother
What for? To atone for her sin
Mary was a saint, clearly chosen by God for a task, but was never equal with God, never married to anyone but Joseph never sinless or prefect. That heresy was one which crept in early from the surrounding cults who deified women.
One other person posted that the Catholic Church didn’t exist before the Roman Church, that person clearly doesn’t understand what the Catholic Church is.
regards
Phil
Phil,
Are you not insulting Jesus-born to a predestined immaculate Mary- by implying that he is not God?
‘I and the father are one-who sees me sees the father’.
Regards,Liam.
Mary was the mother of our savior. You are not to pray to mary for anything and when you do you are praying to a dead person who also needed a savior aka her son Jesus. Jesus said I am the way, the truth and the life. No one cometh unto the father but through me. Jesus never commanded anywhere in the bible to pray to his mother for anything. And you people want to deify her which is outright heresy. Remember when Jesus was in the house and they came and told him your mother and brothers are outside wanting to speak with you. Then Jesus looked around and said who are my mother and brothers??? They who do the will of my father in heaven are my brothers and sisters and mother. So if we do the will of God we are equal with the one you people are praying to. You must pray to Jesus to intercede on your behalf to God the father. When you pray to Mary you are trampling the blood of Christ underfoot..making his atonement ineffect.
@ Phil : Well said… BTW thats the truth.
@ George…. NOW open your bible and start reading… if you dont have one please let me know i can send to you one.
@ Phil :See Phil now they are indirectly telling that Jesus is sinful but Mary is sinless.
@ Liam: before putting your “valuable” comments please read those bible verses and its related verses first.
Rgds
I haven’t implied or said that Jesus Christ is not God. What I have said is that there is a man called Jesus who is the Christ and is also God.
The scriptures teach us that Jesus is fully man and fully God. It isn’t an insult to Jesus Christ to call him a man since the scriptures do that before and after His death.
“There is one mediator between God and man, the man Christ Jesus”
As for Mary being without sin I have already shown that this is contrary to what the bible teaches about her.
I don’t have any words to put it so delicate, You guys will never make it, your understanding of the Bible is thats all, you can take up some words from the Bible and cook up your own definition and dilute other people’s mind and worst of all bringing them also into your boat that follows satan. I don’t know where this will end. but one thing is for sure, God our Father will surely be grieving upon you people for creating you all. Mary and other Saints are worthy of Veneration and GOD is The only Person worthy of our praises and glory.
Hail Mary
Glory and Praise to You Lord JESUS CHRIST
LET US FOLLOW CHRIST!
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I can now fully understand why there are so many denominations claiming to be the Church of Christ.Human ego based upon poor interpretation of scripture and manipulated by satan!Plus ignoring holy tradition via the Spirit as guaranteed by Jesus to St.Peter.
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Today, mankind, urgently requires a spiritual revolution and a return to the truth for if so called believers can build thousands of so called christian denominations based upon personal aside from Spirit inspired scripture interpretation then satan is rubbing his hands in joy and contentment.
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Our Saviour came to us through Mary and we return to Him through Mary.
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Thou art Peter and upon this rock I will build my Church….
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Please pray to Jesus through Mary for the defeat of satan!!!!!!!
@George-you said “Mary and other Saints are worthy of Veneration”
Please show me one verse.
Rgds
This thought for all those who tell that Mary had children other than Jesus,
As we read Gospel of John 19:25 Now there stood by the cross of Jesus his mother, and his mother’s sister, Mary the wife of Cleophas, and Mary Magdalene.
19:26 When Jesus therefore saw his mother, and the disciple standing by, whom he loved, he saith unto his mother, Woman, behold thy son! 19:27 Then saith he to the disciple, Behold thy mother! And from that hour that disciple took her unto his own home.
In this verse we can clearly understand that if Mary had children other than Jesus there is no requirement of appointing his disciple to take care of her and there it is clearly mentioned that from that day that disciple took her unto his home if Mary had other children will they keep quite when John takes their mother to his home. And no where in Bible is told that after death of Jesus Mary lived with her children nor in her home because she lived with the John (disciple)and with other disciples living as their mother from this she become the mother of all the nations.
Hi
As per your comment #772, good to know that you have accepted that God’s love is greatest. For your information, in my comment i said the same and you have elaborated it.
As you know God’s love is greatest submit yourself to God. Pray to Him and Praise and thank Him alone because His love only will be forever and ever.
God exalts the mother but for sure she is no greater than God (even if she has carried Jesus in her womb). So pray to him who is greatest.
@Liam-you said “Our Saviour came to us through Mary and we return to Him through Mary”
Please show me one verse regarding the above.
@ William – DO you know why Jesus spoke to John to take care his mother? Read the below
John 7:5 His brothers spoke like this because they didn’t believe in him.
Hope you are clear.
rgds
Well said,William!!!
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Babu,(784) may I reply:Because they are part of the mystical Body of Christ as are all true followers of Jesus.We are adoring Jesus when we venerate his sincere and saintly followers.
Georgy,
Upon reflection, since I entered this debate via your beautiful site and having perused the contributions from various individuals in relation to Mary the Mother of God I conclude that ‘reason’is the gift from Our Creator that satan tries to influence in his campaign of evil.<