Why should we pray to Virgin Mary? The reasons are many.
Why do Catholics pray to Mother Mary? Is Rosary really powerful?
The intercession of Mother Mary is very powerful as Jesus cannot neglect His mothers commands.This can be proved by the first miracle Jesus did at the wedding at Cana. – (John 2:1-11). Mother Mary told Jesus “They have no more wine.” And what was the final result? He turned water into wine.
In “The Poem of the Man-God” by Maria Valtorta, she says that Jesus told her about this incident as “I did it for Mary”. This proves that the intercession of Mother Mary is very very strong.
Mother Mary was blessed with Holy Spirit abundantly. We can see this as we read “At that time Mary got ready and hurried to a town in the hill country of Judea, where she entered Zechariah’s home and greeted Elizabeth. When Elizabeth heard Mary’s greeting, the baby leaped in her womb, and Elizabeth was filled with the Holy Spirit.” (Luke 1:39-41) ; just by Virgin Mary’s greeting.
Listen to the talk from Apologetics on Mary, Purgatory and The Bible
What the angels thought on this matter:-
When angel appeared before Zechariah,father of John, angel just greets him by his name ,nothing more although he was “upright in the sight of God, observing all the Lord’s commandments and regulations blamelessly.” – (Luke 1:6)
When angel appeared before Joseph, the greeting was like this: “an angel of the Lord appeared to him in a dream and said, “Joseph son of David, do not be afraid to take Mary home as your wife, because what is conceived in her is from the Holy Spirit.” – (Matthew 1:20). Angel greeted him ‘son of david’, thats all.
Now let us see how did the angel greet Virgin Mary. It goes like this: “The angel went to her and said, “Greetings, you who are highly favored! The Lord is with you.” (Luke 1:28). See the difference….
Also read the article Mary, The Mystical Rose
I Pray to mother mary because. We love our mother like wise mother mary also mother of jesus christ. So she is mother of world. Please don’t misunderstand. With out mother we are not at here. Please remember every one. Thank you
Catholics do’t pray to mother Mary we just ask her to pray for us and hence the “term praying to mother Mary” is a big mistake. We just accept her as a mediator or an advocate.
John,
Addeline:
Do you think Mary,mother of Jesus is Virgin???
Answer is NO!!
Mary is virgin till she give birth to Jesus. Then how James, Jesus’s borther existed in earth?
What does this have to do with what Addeline said?
Where does it ever say in Scripture that James is the son of Mary, the mother of Jesus? It doesn’t. It’s an assumption based upon a particular understanding of brother and an additional assumption that Joseph had sexual relations with Mary after she gave birth to Jesus. Even if James was the son of Mary, this would only make James’ Jesus half-brother, biologically speaking. Because Christ was conceived without the semenal aid of a human father, no one, not even James’ can claim to be Christ’s brother in the full sense of the word, if by brother, we allow for no other understanding than, son of the same parents.
@John (400) – why do want to start up another discussion? You are going of the topic that is being discussed on this page, is it because we are not sitting back & allowing people like you to say & be disresepectful to our dear Mother or is it that you feel so righteous about yourself that you want to make up things so that you feel better about yourself… cleary this page is not for you!!! so maybe you should just stay off & out off it. AND, Yes, Our Mother Mary is a Virgin to us, so stop disrespecting Her, because your comments is just a reflection of you & the type of person that you are…are you so disrespectful to you own mother? I wonder….May God bless you
I take the liberty to answer to your question put to Addeline.Since all we Catholics believe in the same doctrine.
I guess you are referring to:
Matthew 13:55 55 “Isn’t this the carpenter’s son? Isn’t his mother’s name Mary, and aren’t his brothers James, Joseph, Simon and Judas?
120 “brothers” in Acts 1:15 – 15 In those days Peter stood up among the believers (a group numbering about a hundred and twenty) 16 and said, “Brothers and sistersâ€.. does not mean they had same mother.
Neither in case of Lot and his uncle Abraham, who were called “brothers” (Gen. 11:26-28, 29:15).
Early Christians knew the usage of brother could mean cousins, nephew or uncle etc.
If you point out the word “until†in Matthew 1:25 which states that Joseph had no relations with Mary until she bore a son.
2 Samuel 6:23, we read that Michal, the daughter of Saul, had no child “until” the day of her death. (Rest assured that she didn’t have any children after that day, either.)
Also,
Hebrews 1:13
13 To which of the angels did God ever say,
“Sit at my right hand until I make your enemies a footstool for your feetâ€
1 Timothy 4:13
13 Until I come, devote yourself to the public reading of Scripture, to preaching and to teaching.
Hope now you understand the word “until†may not necessarily mean the action in question happened after that.
As we all said to you earlier please do not read Bible keeping one passage in mind. Because, When we interpret any passage, we must consider what the author was trying to say. Matthew’s intent in Matthew 1:25 is not to explain what happened after the birth of Christ. He is only concerned with the fact that Joseph and Mary had no relations before then. It is the virgin birth, not later siblings, that Matthew is concerned with.
And about your question, who is James?
We know that James the younger’s mother was named Mary. Look at the descriptions of the women standing beneath the cross: “among whom were Mary Magdalene, and Mary the mother of James and Joseph, and the mother of the sons of Zebedee” (Matt. 27:56); “There were also women looking on from afar, among whom were Mary Magdalene, and Mary the mother of James the younger and of Joses, and Salome” (Mark 15:40).
Then look at what John says: “But standing by the cross of Jesus were his mother, and his mother’s sister, Mary the wife of Clopas, and Mary Magdalene” (John 19:25). If we compare these parallel accounts of the scene of the crucifixion, we see that the mother of James and Joseph must be the wife of Clopas.
(Matt. 10:3) James described as the son of Alphaeus. FYI , Aramaic name for Alphaeus in Greek is Clopas.
So it’s probable that James the younger is the son of Mary and Clopas. The second-century historian Hegesippus explains that Clopas was the brother of Joseph, the foster-father of Jesus. James would thus be Joseph’s nephew and a cousin of Jesus, who was Joseph’s putative son.
Refer the following: Hope you will understand bro.
Ezekiel 44: “This gate shall remain shut; it shall not be opened, and no one shall enter by it; for the Lord, the God of Israel, has entered by it; therefore it shall remain shut.” Mary had become the dwelling place of the Almighty, like the Ark of the Covenant in the Old Testament. Uzzah was struck dead for touching the Ark (2 Sam. 6:6–8)
Phew John. I just repeated whatever was in the earlier comments, if you had read them this question wouldn’t have put forth again.
Anymore questions? Shoot please. We are glad to have a discussion the way you want it- scriptural references.
Peace
Jean,
I must politely disagree. Take for instance the popular “prayer” said to St. Michael:
St. Michael the Archangel, defend us in battle. Be our defense against the wickedness and snares of the devil. May God rebuke him we humbly pray. Do Thou, O Prince of the Heavenly Host, by the power of God, thrust into hell Satan and all the evil spirits who prowl about the world seeking the ruin of souls. Amen.
Also:
O virgin, spotless, undefiled, unstained, all-chaste and Pure Lady, Bride of God, who by the glorious birth-giving hast united God the Word with Man and linked our fallen nature with Heavenly Things; who art the hope of the hopeless, the helper of the oppressed, the ready protection of those who haste unto thee, and the refuge of Christians; despise me not, who am defiled and sinful, who by my wicked thoughts, words and deeds, have become an unworthy servant, and by my slothfulness have turned into a slave to evil affections. O Mother of the God of Love, have mercy and compassion upon me, a sinner and a prodigal. Accept this prayer which is offered to thee from my impure lips; and putting forward thy maternal influence with thy Son, my Lord and Master, beseech Him to open unto me the loving kindness of His grace; beseech Him to overlook my countless transgressions, to give me true repentance and to make me to be a zealous doer of His commandments. And thou, being gracious and compassionate and tender-hearted, be thou ever present with me in this life as my defender and helper, so that I may turn aside the assault of my enemies, and guide me into salvation; help my poor soul at the hour of my death, and drive far from it all the dark forms of the evil ones. And in the dreadful Judgment Day, deliver me from everlasting punishment, and present me as an inheritor of the ineffable glory of the son, our God. From :http://www.orthodoxnet.com/worship/occasionalprayers.html
Like I mentioned before, the phrase, “to pray” is simply another way of saying, “to beseech”.
gen_bam:
Even Hindus who worship stones r Blessed in their life..then do you think that stones are answering them?
NO!!
its not like that..though you are ignorant in seeking the only God..by His everlasting Love for you,Jesus answers ur prayers though u bow to stone or to anyother person!
it hurts Jesus when u not seeking Him..Repent for He is your only mediator.
NIRMAL TONY:
Dont fool urself and others by telling that Mary is mother of world…
Mary is the chosen vessel to bring out God to earth.
Even Mary nor Jesus nor Apostles didnt tell anywhere in Bible that Mary is the mediator or intercessor…
Read Bible clearly.
Jean Donald Thimothy Gomez:
You do one thing…go to nearby graveyard and give your prayer request to the dead people who are in the tomb..they too be as mediator by your idealogy..
Open your eyes man..Bible clearly states that crucified and resurrected Jesus is the only mediatior between God and Man…and we are the intercessors between Christ and man(for whom v pray)..
no People,stones,belief,princples can take the Jesus position.
Cheryl:
hmmm…then by the same biological terms i can say that Jesus is not the son of Mary..
James is the brother of our Lord..
you can see that by Mark15:40,Mark16:1,Mathew27:56,Gal1:19
Tania:
I give respect to Mary,mother of Jesus as she was the chosen one for God.
But i wont keep Mary in place of God,intercessor,mediator,virgin..
am not rightoeus..
I continue to stand for wt scriptures says and not stop for anyone! and i respect my parents more than u do.
John,
I guess you have told everything which comes to your mind already. Thank you for providing a lot of content to have a “constructive” conversation/discussion with.We heard it. Have a good time browsing around TBTG.
Preethi
Hai,
you want to be a good man, you must attach with GOD
Cheryl:
hmmm…then by the same biological terms i can say that Jesus is not the son of Mary.
John,
We know that Mary is Christ’s mother in the “biological sense” of “birth-giver”, because Scripture tells us so.
In the same vein, we know the term brother does not necessarily mean “son of the same parents”, because Scripture tells us so.
John, I’m not trying to be mean, but all of this has been hashed about–again and again. This thread is already 414+ posts long. Let’s just agree to disagree okay?
can we ask dead people to intercede for us
The word “Prayer”, according to the dictionary has more than one meaning.
1. a personal communication or petition addressed to a deity, esp in the form of supplication, adoration, praise, contrition, or thanksgiving.
2. a similar personal communication that does not involve adoration, addressed to beings venerated as being closely associated with a deity, such as angels or saints.
3. an earnest request, petition, or entreaty.
We are requesting them to Pray for us and help us with the “Power of God”(as both prayers states).
It is always God that works through them for us.
Again, i have posted a website earlier in one of my comments. I will post it again. It is called http://www.biblechristiansociety.com.
Choose free mp3downloads under apologetics and you can listen to them.
It has several talks on catholic beliefs(with bible references).Especially, if you would like to know about Mother Mary and Scriptural references, it is explained on the talk by John. If you have a question about brothers of christ, he talks about it. So, please please listen to the talk. Dont just hear it and ask the same questions over and over again. Please Listen. This talk is also availabe on this website, but i am posting the above website because there are lot more Catholic teachings that you might question and if you would like to know where The Church stands on all of them, this would be a great place.
God Bless!
We’ve all repeated ourselves Jisha. We’re even repeating each other! What more can be asked? What more can be said? Thanks for the links btw and the dictionary citation.
jai:
haha:-)
NO!
You are the intercessor when you have a heart to live and do His will.
Cheryl:
Yes..Mary is the mother of Jesus and James is the Lord’s brother.
why you are worrying about Comments count?Even Admin is not worrying:-)
Preethi & Cheryl:
Dont give childish reply that since we call other people also “Brothers & Sisters”,Bible says James also in that way..
we call our own brother also as brother rt??
thats wt it mentioned by St.Paul
“But I saw none of the other apostles except James the Lord’s brother” Gal1:19
So i conclude this topic that Mary is not Virgin!
hyils:
Thats correct..
Cheryl:
for ur Comment #407:
I know only one prayer which my Jesus taught me in Mathew6:9-13.
And i dont know how Jesus taught you alone to pray to St.Micheal and other people..
Please find nearby good God fearing people and ask them how to seek God..
I seeked help from my good spiritual friends to understand the Bible better when am in College..still am seeking their help sometimes to know more and more :-)
Thank you Jisha. Link you had provided ( http://www.biblechristiansociety.com ) is a great resource. That was actually the beginning of my quest then I also stumbled across resources by Archbishop Fulton Sheen.
Thanks for the share & inspiration.
You are not letting Scripture interpret Scripture. I (and others) have already said that Scripture uses the term ‘brother’ in a wide range of meanings. So it does no good just to cite a passage where James is called the Lord’s brother. You’re not taking into account the whole of Scripture. You’re interpreting this and that passage according to the way you think it ought to be interpreted, without taking into account the way Scripture speaks and then harping on us for not knowing the Scriptures. It is you who need a better grasp of Scripture! We’re going to narrow this down to one question:
When Paul says, in Roms 9:3, “For I could wish that I myself were cursed and cut off from Christ for the sake of my brothers, those of my own race…”
Are his brothers (his adelpho):
A: Merely sons of his mother (and father)?
B: The Jewish race at large?
As for thread count-I could care less how long a thread is, so long as it’s productive, but this one ceased to be along time ago. We are just rehashing the same arguments. How long are we going to continue to do this? How long are we going to repeat ourselves–for fifty more posts-a hundred? Heck, let’s go for a thousand!
John, curtesy dictates that I respond to you. Nevertheless, I am getting frustrated, tired and angry. It’s my fault that I ever came back to this discussion, but some of the comments here infuriate me. John, you know very little of why we believe and act the way we do. I’m not trying to be cruel, that’s just a simple fact-you do not know more about a person’s faith/religion than the person actively practicing it!!!! Quit angering people with judgments based upon what you do not know and educate yourself if you wish to engage Catholics further. I’m done arguing with you. I can go no further without saying things I know I’ll regret. I’ll only respond, if you answer my question regarding Paul’s “brothers” above and only then, if you respond, “A” or “B”. If you skirt the question in any way then this (lack of) conversation between you and I, is finished. God help and forgive us all!
Posting a quote here:
“Those in the Catholic Church, whom some rebuke for praying to Saints and going on pilgrimages, do not seek any Saint as their savior. Instead, they Seek saints as those whom their Savior loves, and whose intercession and prayer for the seeker He will be content to hear. For His Own sake, He would have those He loves honored. And when they are thus honored for His sake, then the honor that is given them for His sake overflows especially to Himself.”
St. Thomas More
One more:
“You say you see no reason why we should pray to the Saints since God can hear us and help us just as well, and will do so gladly, as any Saint in Heaven. Well, then, what need, I ask, do you have to ask any physician to help your fever, or to ask and pay any surgeon to heal your sore leg? For God can both hear you and help you as well as the best of doctors. He loves you more than they do, and He can help you sooner. Besides—–His poultices are cheaper and He will give you more for your words alone than they will for your money!”
St. Thomas More
God Bless!
Dear All,
By the way may i know who is the Woman that will appear in the sky that God has reffered in the Book Of Revelation??? ( ” New Testament” )
Cheryl:
Option B
Ange:
The woman represents in Rev12 is the Church of Living God…
You can also see that the Church is represented by “her” in Ephesians 5:25.
That church is not as Pentacostal or CSI or Catholic as foolish people claims..
Jesus as our Advocate and mediator.
Mediator
The word “mediator” is a verb translated from mesites, and literally means “a go-between,” in which it’s used two ways relating to Jesus (Vine’s).
Jesus is the mediator between God and man, producing peace (1 Tim. 2:5).
Jesus is the mediator of the new covenant, which man could not secure for himself (Heb. 8:6; 9:15; 12:24).
Jesus: Mediator Between God and Man
In one respect, the word “mediator” is used of Jesus as one who mediates between two parties to produce peace (Vine’s).
“For there is one God, and one mediator also between God and men, the man Christ Jesus” (1 Tim. 2:5).
We have peace with God through Jesus, having been purified with His blood, and no longer enemies of God (Ja. 4:4).
“Therefore, having been justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ” (Rom. 5:1). So then, we have the peace of God in Christ Jesus.
“And the peace of God, which surpasses all comprehension, will guard your hearts and your minds in Christ Jesus” (Phil. 4:7).
Jesus: Mediator of the New Covenant
In another respect, the word “mediator” is used of Jesus mediating the new covenant.
“And to Jesus, the mediator of a new covenant, and to the sprinkled blood, which speaks better than the blood of Abel” (Heb. 12:24).
“For this reason He is the mediator of a new covenant, so that, since a death has taken place for the redemption of the transgressions that were committed under the first covenant, those who have been called may receive the promise of the eternal inheritance” (Heb. 9:15).
It wasn’t possible for man to mediate this new covenant for himself. Thus, God sent Jesus to mediate it by offering Himself as a sacrifice and shedding His blood, which is the blood of the new covenant (Matt. 26:28; Heb. 12:24).
JESUS CHRIST is alive and HE is our High Priest…-
HE is a spiritual high priest after the order of Melchizedek. No one followed Melchizedek in HIS priesthood. No one follows JESUS in His (Hebrews 5:10; 6:20; 7:3). Jesus is the forerunner of His people. He has gone before them in order to intercede (plead on their behalf). This is the reason He was made a High Priest.
however, we are talking about the people who are dead, remember JESUS CHRIST said that I am going to my Father’s House there is many place and then I will come back and take you with me. So, the disciples of JESUS CHRIST, where are they, are they in Heaven…. No, they are in Paradise, waiting for JESUS CHRIST to come and take all of us to HIS Father’s House.
WHEN HE RETURNS, NEW BODIES OF ALL OF GOD’S PEOPLE WHO HAVE ALREADY DIED WILL RISE UP OUT OF THEIR GRAVES, right out of the ground!–And all of those who are still alive will suddenly be changed! In one moment, the body you have now will suddenly become a new kind of super-body that will fly up into the sky to meet the Lord! (1Cor.15:51,52; 1Thes.4:16,17)
“For there is one God and one Mediator between God and men, the Man Christ Jesus ” (1 Timothy 2:5). A mediator is one who reconciles opposing persons or parties.
There is no other way to go to Heaven except through Jesus. He is “the way, the truth, and the life” (John 14:6).
You have the direct access to the high priest…………..
Advocate
The Greek word parakletos appears five times in the New Testament, and is only used by the apostle John.
It’s used four times referring to the Holy Spirit in the gospel of John, and is translated “Helper” (NASB, NKJ) or “Comforter” (KJV) (John 14:16, 26; 15:26; 16:7).
It’s used once referring to Jesus in First John, and is translated “Advocate” (1 Jn. 2:1).
Parakletos literally means “called to one’s side” for aid (Vine’s).
“It was used in a court of justice to denote a legal assistant, counsel for the defense, an advocate; then, generally, one who pleads another’s cause, an intercessor, advocate, as in 1 John 2:1, of the Lord Jesus” (Vine’s).
“In the widest sense, it signifies a ‘succorer, comforter’ . . . (Vine’s).
In John 14:16, Jesus promises to send “another” Helper, thus also referring to Himself as a Helper.
“‘I will ask the Father, and He will give you another Helper, that He may be with you forever'” (Jn. 14:16).
And in 1 John 2:1, the apostle John uses parakletos of Jesus as our Advocate.
“My little children, I am writing these things to you so that you may not sin. And if anyone sins, we have an Advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous” (1 Jn. 2:1).
Jesus, Our Advocate
Jesus is our parakletos (Advocate). He is the one who comes to our aid when we sin, to stand by us and plead our case before God, interceding for us upon the throne of God, as we confess our sins (1 Jn. 1:8-2:2).
Jesus’ blood cleanses us from all sin (1 Jn. 1:7).
Jesus is the propitiation for our sins (1 Jn. 2:2).
Therefore, as John indicates with the word parakletos, Jesus is our Comforter and Helper in heaven, as the one who pleads our case before God.
why don’t we have St. David or St. Joseph….- ok b’se they were rulers
well then why don’t we have saint Elijah or St. Elisha or St. Samuel or St. Moses
well Elijah and Moses came to JESUS CHRIST to give the message of GOD to HIM.
We need to understand that, after JESUS CHRIST was ressurected-
all 12 apostles, Paul and other disciples were not present at all places mentioned in Bible.
People used to pray and they never waited for Paul to come or Peter to come or to Mary to come to their place so that they can pray, whether that place is Chorinths, Colossians, Ephesians, Thessolonians, Phillipins.
Apostles went to this places and shared the good news to them and stayed with them for some time and then left the places.
Then these people used to pray the same way how some of the other brother and siter do now…. Pray directly to GOD Almighty through JESUS CHRIST.
why through JESUS CHRIST b’se all power and authority has been given to HIM
Remember brothers and sisters GOD has been seeking a relationship with HIM directly like a Bridegroom with Bride, like a husband to his wife- We trying to have relationship with husband’s friend or husband’s mother where as we can directly go to the husband…..and that makes sense too.
All of us have become like one who is unclean,
and all our righteous acts are like filthy rags; we all shrivel up like a leaf, and like the wind our sins sweep us away. Isa 64:6
As it is written: “There is no one righteous, not even one; Rom 3:10
All are born sinners except one – Psalm 51:5 states that we all come into the world as sinners: “Behold, I was brought forth in iniquity, and in sin my mother conceived me.”
All the people in this world- all the people who are born they are all born with sin……., all inherit the sin…….., sin is the nature which is present in us……., as the genes of parents is present is us……, same is the sin present in each and everybody who is born with natural phenomina as the genes from our forfethers Adam and Eve.
look to the teaching of Paul the Apostle in Romans 5:12-21 and 1 Corinthians 15:22 for its scriptural base,[2] and see it in Old Testament passage Psalm 51:5 too.
All people who so ever is bron with natural process whether i.e., you, me, our hindu brothers or sisters or muslim brothers and sisters or all the apostles or even the mary.
We are made right with God by placing our faith in Jesus Christ. And this is true for everyone who believes, no matter who we are( everybody).
When JESUS CHRIST was going back to HIS Father’s House, HE said that all the 12 disciples and to all the people present there that- I am going to ask to send the comforter, helper, intercesor, You know the GOD HIMSELF promised of sending some one John 14:15-21.
Did HE promise some thing else- that, i am going to send a person every other place for your intercesion and help no.
GOD said that where ever two or more people gather togther inmy name I will be there and if they agree one oe thing and ask to my Father in my name[( no one in between), this are the word from the mouth of our Lord and Saviour JESUS CHRIST]I will do it, so that the name of the Father be glorified.
Cheryl:
Option B
John,
Thank you. Paul is not the only one to use the term, ‘brother’ in a sense other than, “son of the same parents” Preethi also gave us the example of Abraham and Lot being termed, “brother(s)”. Can the term “brother” mean “son of the same parents” in Scripture? Of course! We are not arguing that it cannot. We are merely suggesting that the term “brother” does not always mean, “son of the same parents”. Therefore, we cannot conclude, based on the term, “brother” alone, whether, “son of the same parents” is the correct meaning (of any passage!). Looking at the phrase “brother of the Lord”, is it possible that this might mean that Mary gave birth to another son beside Jesus? Yes! Does it necessarily mean that? No. Could it also mean that Joseph (and not Mary) had biological children, making James ect. Jesus’ “brother(s)” in that sense? Yes! But not necessarily. The term could also mean that James ect. are Joseph’s adopted sons (in the same way that Jesus was truly the son of Joseph, although not in the biological sense). The phrase could also mean a close relative and so on and so forth. The point is, if we want to know the exact relationship between James ect. to Jesus, we have to look elsewhere. This is what Catholics have done. They believe that James and Joses (the Lord’s brothers) are the same James and Joses cited in Matt. 27:56, Mark 15:40 and Luke 24:10. Their mother was named Mary. Hmmmm. Could this be Jesus’ mother? It’s possible, but unlikely. The writers of the Gospels want us to know who these women are. Afterall, the were the first eyewitnesses to the resurrection. If this Mary was the mother of Jesus, it would be out of character for the Biblical writers to identify her as the mother of James, Joses, ect. since previous to this time, she was always identified with Jesus. This is especially obvious when we taken Luke into account. All throughout his Gospel, Mary, Jesus’ mother was always designated as such, she continues to be designated as such later in Acts (which was written by Luke). For Luke to make such an abrupt switch in 24:10 (designating her as the mother of James, when before she was designation in accordance with Christ)would be odd enough, but then to “switch back to” identifying her as Christ’s mother in Acts 1:14 would be even more odd. Most Catholics believe Mary, mother of James and Jose is the same woman, John identifies as ‘of Clopas’ and Jesus’ aunt (his mother’s sister) in 19:25: “Near the cross of Jesus stood his mother, his mother’s sister, Mary the wife of Clopas, and Mary Magdalene”. You may not agree, but I hope this goes to show that we are not giving, “childish replies”, but that our belief regarding the, “who’s who” in Scripture, comes from a thorough study of those same Scriptures.
God bless you John.
Peace.
To John
who told you, the 12 twelve stars around ‘the church’ as you say represents the disciples (392), why not the twelve tribes of Israel? and the moon and the sun? and is one of the stars Judas Ischariot?
If Mary had other children, why did Jesus give her to his favourite disciple to be looked after, why did the other children not take care of their mother? Looking forward to the ‘learned answer’ God bless!
Brother of Jesus Christ never thought that HE is the messiah.
like the brothers of David and Joseph………… they never gave that importance to JESUS, thats why Jesus told that the prophet is not respected in his own town.
and Even the disciples of JESUS CHRIST did not had idea of what JESUS is going to do…… and that JESUS is going to get resurrected- though JESUS CHRIST gave many clues and told them, they never understood…………… till the time JESUS resurrected and met them.
Even the disciples od JESUS were waiting for the earthly kingdom to be restored………….as Israel was in captive from long time. they were waiting for the Messiah to come and make them free from foreign rule…. as that time whole of Israel was waiting and as even now they are waiting for the Messiah to come and set up the kingdom of GOD in this world, whiich will be rules by GOD’s choosen people.
A Prophet Without Honor (Matt 13: 53-58)
53 When Jesus had finished these parables, he moved on from there. 54 Coming to his hometown, he began teaching the people in their synagogue, and they were amazed. “Where did this man get this wisdom and these miraculous powers?†they asked. 55 “Isn’t this the carpenter’s son? Isn’t his mother’s name Mary, and aren’t his brothers James, Joseph, Simon and Judas? 56 Aren’t all his sisters with us? Where then did this man get all these things?†57 And they took offense at him.
But Jesus said to them, “A prophet is not without honor except in his own town and in his own home.â€
58 And he did not do many miracles there because of their lack of faith.
why did JESUS told john to take care of his mother………………………. when james and his brothers weere still alive Matt 13: 53-58
Luke 2:6-7 tells us that mary gave birth to her first born son ( first bron means that he was the first or the eldest son)
JESUS was the eldest son, HE had the responsibility of the family………….. according to Jews tradition if the eldest son is going some where he tells some one who is close to him to take care of their family that can be his brothers or that can be his friends
None of his brother believed on HIM. Now, john was the cousin of JESUS.
at the time of crucifiction Jesus siblings were not mentioned as being there. Again JESUS also knew that James will die soon after HIS death. James became the prominent leader of the followers of JESUS. it was Jews tradition again that, if a leader dies then some one from the family used to take place of that leader – for example we can see Meccabeans revolt or movement started by Zealots…………..
Note that 40 days later, John is found in the upper room in Jerusalem, and he is not Mary’s sole caretaker. Mary is indeed there with him, but so are Jesus’ brothers. Acts 1:13,14 says, “When they had entered the city, they went up to the upper room where they were staying; that is, Peter and John and James and Andrew, Philip and Thomas, Bartholomew and Matthew, James the son of Alphaeus, and Simon the Zealot, and Judas the son of James. These all with one mind were continually devoting themselves to prayer, along with the women, and Mary the mother of Jesus, and with His brothers” (NASB).
If Jesus’ main directive is for John to do something, for instance, “John, look after my mother,” why does He address Mary first? Isn’t He really asking her to do something in relation to John first, and John to do something in relation to Mary second? In a sense, then, He is saying to Mary, “Be his mother,” then saying to John, “accept her as your mother.” From that moment, John “took her into his own,†that is, as his own mother or into his own family. But there’s not a shred of evidence from Scripture that John took her into his actual home, nor that Jesus’ brothers were relieved of her care.
There is no need for all this wrangling to support an erroneous theological position concocted in the dark ages by dualistic philosophers that had taken control of the Roman Catholic Church. The Bible says what it means and means what it says: Jesus did indeed have brothers. His mother lost her virginity sometime after He was born. That’s why the Bible very clearly states that Joseph “kept her a virgin until she gave birth to a Son…†(Matthew 1:25, NASB). That means Joseph didn’t keep her a virgin forever, but until some time after she had given birth to Jesus.
Our Lord was clearly more concerned with His mother’s spiritual welfare than with either family considerations or economic welfare (and letting His brothers take care of her would have been better on both of these other two counts). For our Lord was concerned that His mother continue in an environment of faith, her eternal life and spiritual growth being even more important to Him than her physical life and financial security.