Why should we pray to Virgin Mary? The reasons are many.
Why do Catholics pray to Mother Mary? Is Rosary really powerful?
The intercession of Mother Mary is very powerful as Jesus cannot neglect His mothers commands.This can be proved by the first miracle Jesus did at the wedding at Cana. – (John 2:1-11). Mother Mary told Jesus “They have no more wine.” And what was the final result? He turned water into wine.
In “The Poem of the Man-God” by Maria Valtorta, she says that Jesus told her about this incident as “I did it for Mary”. This proves that the intercession of Mother Mary is very very strong.
Mother Mary was blessed with Holy Spirit abundantly. We can see this as we read “At that time Mary got ready and hurried to a town in the hill country of Judea, where she entered Zechariah’s home and greeted Elizabeth. When Elizabeth heard Mary’s greeting, the baby leaped in her womb, and Elizabeth was filled with the Holy Spirit.” (Luke 1:39-41) ; just by Virgin Mary’s greeting.
Listen to the talk from Apologetics on Mary, Purgatory and The Bible
What the angels thought on this matter:-
When angel appeared before Zechariah,father of John, angel just greets him by his name ,nothing more although he was “upright in the sight of God, observing all the Lord’s commandments and regulations blamelessly.” – (Luke 1:6)
When angel appeared before Joseph, the greeting was like this: “an angel of the Lord appeared to him in a dream and said, “Joseph son of David, do not be afraid to take Mary home as your wife, because what is conceived in her is from the Holy Spirit.” – (Matthew 1:20). Angel greeted him ‘son of david’, thats all.
Now let us see how did the angel greet Virgin Mary. It goes like this: “The angel went to her and said, “Greetings, you who are highly favored! The Lord is with you.” (Luke 1:28). See the difference….
Also read the article Mary, The Mystical Rose
So what does happen has she said “no”. Will God’s plan be stopped? Or he would have looked for another girl who could be obedient? And would you to pray (pray / intercede to / intercede with etc) to that other girl?
Could you talk to Mother Mary as you would talk to a fellow Christian who is alive here on earth?
@ Dani
Could you talk to Mother Mary as you would talk to a fellow Christian who is alive here on earth?
why not!
some folks can communicate to God Himself, hear His voice, and are guided by the Holy Spirit(esp. when they read the bible)
so I don’t think it would be difficult for you to talk to Mother Mary
but for me, not so. 2 reasons-
1. I’m a catholic. I need gifted people to guide me, who have authority.
2. I’m not lucky enough(not holy enough actually) to have this capability.
do you remember what happened when Moses came down from Sinai after talking to God? Ex 34:30
what about hearing His voice? Ex 20:19
finally, it is useless to think about what could happen if Mary disobeyed..God’s plan after that..then what we would be doing…etc etc.
no need to do that
just think about what HAS happened..what IS happening, and what WILL happen.
@ntoppo
why not! some folks can communicate to God Himself, hear His voice, and are guided by the Holy Spirit(esp. when they read the bible)
so I don’t think it would be difficult for you to talk to Mother Mary
Sorry – but i didnt get you. I know the personalities of God and that He is here with me. I have reasons why i believe He is here with me. Its because He has promised the same thru the scriptures “I WILL BE WITH YOU ALWAYS”. Rest assured, i can trust that God is there with me and each of HIs children. THEREFORE, He can hear me. Therefore, i can talk to Him. Though not always in audible to the human ear, sometimes He speaks thru the Word, dreams, visions, prophecies etc. This part of talking to God, praying to God i can understand.
When i ask a fellow Christian to pray for me, i am tlaking to him as i can see him, feel him physically here in my place. So i ask him/her to pray for me.
1. My question is this – can i talk to Mary in this same manner? As i talk to a fellow Christian who is alive on earth.
God is the Creator. Mary is the creation.
Creator God promised to always be with us and hear our prayers. And He does.
But, can i know whether Mary has promised to be with us, and hear our prayers always? Bible verses to support ?
Thanks and God bless
Dani
Dani – can i talk to Mary in this same manner?
WHY???
you can’t see her. you can’t feel her physically so obviously you can’t talk to her IN THAT SAME MANNER.
why do you ask such atheist-style question? what will it prove?
Dani – God is the Creator. Mary is the creation. Creator God promised to always be with us and hear our prayers. And He does.
absolutely right.
Dani – But, can i know whether Mary has promised to be with us, and hear our prayers always? Bible verses to support ?
why??
why must she have promised? God is with her (Luke 1:28) so she must be with us.
who told you that SHE HEARS OUR PRAYERS? it’s God who hears prayers.
may be, we need to define ‘hearing one’s prayer’. right?
now..Bible verses.
hmmm…ok. i don’t find any verse to support my statement.
but who supported early Christians when there were no bible verses?
Its totally WRONG TO PRAY TO MARY! WE SHOULD HONOUR HER, BUT WE SHOULD NOT GIVE HER ANY GLORY.
JESUS CHRIST OUR LORD CAME TO GIVE US SALVATION, NOT MARY!
JESUS CHRIST HEALED THE SICK, NOT MARY!
JESUS CHRIST IS THE WAY, THE TRUTH AND THE LIFE, NOT MARY!
JESUS CHRIST CLEARLY SAID “NO ONE COMES TO THE FATHER BUT THROUGH”
SO FRIENDS ONLY JESUS CHRIST TAKES OUR PRAYERS AND
PRESENTS IT TO GOD, NOT MARY!
I have not read all the posts, but I think it important to remember that Jesus commissioned (Simon) Peter as the rock on which His Church would be built.
In the Name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit, the faith was to be spread.
Jesus did not give Peter a bible, he sent him as a man inflamed by Holy Spirit.
The bible is very important to the faith, but it is a tool. Mother Church and her teachings are as important. The Church is the Bride of Christ and brought forth the Faith to God’s people for fifteen hundred years before the Bible was available to everybody. Without the Church instituted by Jesus Christ, and brought forward by the Apostles and the Holy Spirit, there would be no argument today about “Sola scriptura” Don’t you think it funny that the the Protestant movement really began when the bible became available for personal interpretation? Careful how you tread on Christ’s Church.
May God Bless you all.
@Joshua
after a long time…but with same logic.
i wonder why you are adding the phrase ‘not Mary’. show me a bible reference with the phrase ‘not Mary’.
say something new man. your argument is nothing more than a stick to beat Catholics with.
ah, your last sentence..something new is there.
And another angel came and stood at the altar, having a golden censer; and there was given unto him much incense, that he should offer it with the prayers of all saints upon the golden altar which was before the throne.
And the smoke of the incense, which came with the prayers of the saints, ascended up before God out of the angel’s hand. Rev8:3-4
what is this fellow{angel) doing here? that’s Jesus’ work-to present our prayers to God..according to you. may be Jesus takes rest for a while?
next time when you post something, do it with some seriousness. don’t just increase the number of comments
@ntoppo:
-WHY???
you can’t see her. you can’t feel her physically so obviously you can’t talk to her IN THAT SAME MANNER.
why do you ask such atheist-style question? what will it prove?
My comment: If u can’t talk to her, if u cant feel her, then how can i pray to her?
Ntoppo:
why must she have promised?
God made a promise to us that “HE” will be with us, and hear our prayers. THEREFORE i know God hears us. If Mary can’t promise, then what do we expect from her?
Ntoppo:
God is with her (Luke 1:28) so she must be with us.
-God is with her – yes agreed.
-So she must be with us – how can i know that? Any reference from the Word of God?
Ntoppo:
– who told you that SHE HEARS OUR PRAYERS? it’s God who hears prayers.
Thanks for clearing that for me bro – Mary cant hear. Thanks for the info brother. Which means to say – i need not pray to Mary and praying to her (when she cant hear) is like praying to a graven image that has ears but cannot hear.
Ntoppo:
– hmmm…ok. i don’t find any verse to support my statement.
A Christian’s guide is all there in the Bible which is the combining of the written Word of God. If not supported by the Bible, then that is called un-biblical.
but who supported early Christians when there were no bible verses?
Sorry – i didnt get you in this.
God bless
Mary is the Mother of God. Jesus is the son of Mary.
@Dani & others against Mother’s special role in our redemption
Jesus died for us. He gifted us undeserving humans salvation by being one among them.
He did not give up His human body after resurrection! He is still with His Holy Body and will come again on His second coming with all glory.
If His job was done by dying for us he wouldn’t have stayed/staying with human flesh..
Mary is the mother of God’s human nature!
We must respect His human nature as much as His divine nature.
By denying His mother we deny our heavenly mother.
Yes Mary is His creation. But the most Holy. Do you think God can get nourishment as a fetus in a body where even original is there? Do you think He can grow up anywhere else than the most Holy family?
Don’t you believe in miracles that Jesus did? Can’t Father create the most holy womb for His beloved son?Why do you or anyone else let your minds say, if Mother Mary had disobeyed, he could have thought of someone else! Yes, you reason with human minds. By denying a mysterious ways of God , you deny the power of God and disgrace The Holy Spirit!
Don’t forget the words – ” where sins against Father and Son can be forgiven, but not sins against the Spirit “.
You interpret things according to your own misunderstood logic. When you don’t like something from the Bible take things literally and argue.
On the day of last supper, Jesus transformed bread and wine as His Body and Blood. I do not which denominations think it is symbolic and which others believe along with Catholics that He really does transform it during every Eucharistic celebration.
If you don’t I want to question,why don’t you believe it as it is written in the Bible while you argue about everything about Mother Mary.
You say, she can’t hear our prayers because you don’t know the meaning of intercession.
Israelite were winning when Moses was praying harder. Why that had an effect? Because he was righteous. Now you say, he was alive then.
Well, then why did Moses and Elijah appeared during transfiguration of Jesus. And they were TALKING to Him.Refer KJB-Joshua 1:2″Moses my servant is dead; now therefore arise, go over this Jordan, thou, and all this people, unto the land which I do give to them, even to the children of Israel.”
Moses died. Then how could he come and talk to Jesus? Whether in his eternal body or temporary body doesn’t matter.
Then why not, why not Jesus can speak to His mother and other righteous departed souls?
Jesus is the head of the church and we are his body parts. Both who are alive and who are departed from earth. We both are waiting for Christ’s second coming,for our final judgment and thereafter to live with His holy presence on a place He has created for us.
Yes, they can hear us.
“There was a rich man who was dressed in purple and fine linen and lived in luxury every day. At his gate was laid a beggar named Lazarus, covered with sores and longing to eat what fell from the rich man’s table. Even the dogs came and licked his sores. “The time came when the beggar died and the angels carried him to Abraham’s side. The rich man also died and was buried. In hell, where he was in torment, he looked up and saw Abraham far away, with Lazarus by his side. So he called to him, ‘Father Abraham, have pity on me and send Lazarus to dip the tip of his finger in water and cool my tongue, because I am in agony in this fire.’ Luke 16:19-24 (NIV)
Notice that, they can see each other, hear each other.
(Abraham):[31] “He said to him, ‘If they do not listen to Moses and the Prophets, they will not be convinced even if someone rises from the dead.’ ”
So Abraham knows what is in the rich man’s brothers future!What I am trying to say is, God reveals certain truths to people who are departed and close to Him.Through Beatific vision!
Rev 5:8- “golden bowls of incense, which are the prayers of the saintsâ€. If you say, St.Paul called saints to every believer who is alive,on the judgment day nobody will be alive. Everyone will die, even those two witnesses sent by God.(Then they become alive.)Also, when Jesus gave back life miraculously he said, they are sleeping, not as “DEAD”. Their bodies were sleeping and spirit alive. Take this literally as well!
In the Second Letter to the Thessalonians, St. Paul is just as explicit: “So then, brethren, stand firm and hold to the traditions which you were taught by us, either by word of mouth or by letter” (2:15).
Then why do you say Catholics act by traditions and not by scripture!
and nowhere in the Bible including St.Paul’s letters it is mentioned salvation is by ‘scripture alone’.
Yes, Jesus became “our sin” in order to die to get us salvation. The work is not complete, we have to earn it and He created Church to cling to the faith because we cannot know everything by our own. Holy spirit guides church. Not everyone is able to interpret His will, if it were possible we wouldn’t have required His mother’s obedience,Jesus’ human nature in fact obedience of Abraham. Do not forget that we are born with gift of free will.Even satan tempted Jesus maybe through external factors. We have to earn every bit of salvation.
I have gone off the track or maybe not and all these points are already mentioned and I also know that this will have no effect.
I just said what I had to after a long day.
Catholic brothers & sisters please correct me if am wrong in expressing something.
Mother Mary pray for us.
Mark 3:31-35 KJV
There came then his brethren and his mother, and, standing without, sent unto him, calling him. And the multitude sat about him, and they said unto him, Behold, thy mother and thy brethren without seek for thee. And he answered them, saying, Who is my mother, or my brethren? And he looked round about on them which sat about him, and said, Behold my mother and my brethren! For whosoever shall do the will of God, the same is my brother, and my sister, and mother.
Mark 3:31-35 NKJV
Then His brothers and His mother came, and standing outside they sent to Him, calling Him. And a multitude was sitting around Him; and they said to Him, “Look, Your mother and Your brothers are outside seeking You.†But He answered them, saying, “Who is My mother, or My brothers?†And He looked around in a circle at those who sat about Him, and said, “Here are My mother and My brothers! For whoever does the will of God is My brother and My sister and mother.â€
Was it Jesus who taught us or was it Mary?
Was it Jesus who prayed for us with tears of blood or was it Mary?
Was it Jesus who stood between us and the wrath of God by His suffering for our sins or was it Mary?
Was it Jesus who prayed to the Father and said “forgive them for they know not what they do.” Or Mary?
Did God say about Mary “this is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased, hear Him!”?
Chase, you quoted a passage that really is one of the reasons for honoring our Mother. if anyone, other than Jesus, did the will of God wholeheartedly that was none but Mother Mary. Jesus is giving great honor to her for her faith and obedience by saying these words. thus Mary is Jesus’ mother not just by flesh rather there is even a greater spiritual relationship between both of them.
so, think it anyway, Mary is the Mother of Jesus and Mother of God!! a great mystery.
When you ask yourself these questions and answer them truthfully, you will see that Jesus is our intercessory and only He has paid the cost to be our High Priest and advocate who prays with and for us. If it was anything beyond this He would have made it clear. He didn’t say come follow my mother Mary and she will guide you to Me. He said ” come follow ME”.
When you ask yourself these questions and answer them truthfully, you will see that Jesus is our intercessory and only He has paid the cost to be our High Priest and advocate who prays with and for us. If it was anything beyond this He would have made it clear. He didn’t say come follow my mother Mary and she will guide you to Me. He said ” come follow ME”.
And no preethi it is not by scripture we are saved but by faith in the Lord Jesus Christ.
The work is not complete???? So Jesus couldn’t complete it?????
Preethi maybe you should know what St. Paul says and learn your scripture before you teach.
Ephesians 2:8-9 NKJV
For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God, not of works, lest anyone should boast.
Romans 11:6 NKJV
And if by grace, then it is no longer of works; otherwise grace is no longer grace. But if it is of works, it is no longer grace; otherwise work is no longer work.
1 Corinthians 16:21-24 NKJV
The salutation with my own hand—Paul’s. If anyone does not love the Lord Jesus Christ, let him be accursed. O Lord, come! The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you. My love be with you all in Christ Jesus. Amen.
John 17:14 NKJV
I have given them Your word; and the world has hated them because they are not of the world, just as I am not of the world.
Ntoppo wow you really had to stretch that to make it fit huh?
No matter I am only saying what the bible says I don’t have to make it fit.
Should I believe some other teaching other than the Holy Bible?
I think its pretty clear in its instructions. Why add to it or take away from its credibilty?
2 Timothy 4:2-3 NKJV
Preach the word! Be ready in season and out of season. Convince, rebuke, exhort, with all longsuffering and teaching. For the time will come when they will not endure
sound doctrine, but according to their own desires, because they have itching ears, they will heap up for themselves teachers;
Colossians 1:27-29 NKJV
To them God willed to make known what are the riches of the glory of this mystery among the Gentiles: which is Christ in you, the hope of glory. Him we preach, warning every man and teaching every man in all wisdom, that we may present every man perfect in Christ Jesus. To this end I also labor, striving according to His working which works in me mightily.
****QUOTE****Lauren Rachelle says:
March 4th, 2011 at 8:11 am
I love Mary so much! There are so many things that are in Christianity, that aren’t found within the Bible. So many Mysteries, Miracles and Acts of Christ which we experience all around us.
Mother Mary is so close to God, she is the Mother of Christ, as a Catholic I believe she was no ordinary woman. God equipped her through an Immaculate Conception, creating her as the “New Eve†giving her the opportunity to choose God. She could have been like Eve, and ate from the apple, but she didn’t, and in her choosing God and sinlessness she was equipped to carry the MOST PRECIOUS GIFT in her unordinarily grace-filled womb and carry Christ into the world. She didn’t give birth to Jesus and sit on the sidelines like most women, she was by His side.
Ever seen the Passion Of Christ? Watch it and look at Mary in this… Every waking moment of our Lords death, she was there, suffering with Him….****************
WOW! Seriously???? SERIOUSLY!!! SO….that means most mothers now-a-days should be like Mary?? You could pray to ME when I am dead?? I stand by my children NO MATTER WHAT. So am I unordinary? Come on. Get real.
You don’t ACCEPT MARY to get to heaven, my friend. I’m sorry to burst your bubble, but if that were the case, don’t you think there would me more of a “fuss” about her?
BOTTOM LINE: Thou shall NOT pray to any other God but me.
Is there something confusing about that???
And I SWEAR I posted on here (since I am getting updates) but can’t seem to find my post (within the last few weeks). Bummer. Did it get yanked for any reason?
chase your comment 265
He didn’t say come follow my mother Mary and she will guide you to Me. He said †come follow MEâ€.
1Co:11:1: Be ye followers of me, even as I also am of Christ.
2Th:3:9: Not because we have not power, but to make ourselves an ensample unto you to follow us
would you please “fit” your above statement into these verses?
thank you for sharing your knowledge
Matthew 16:24 NKJV
Then Jesus said to His disciples, “If anyone desires to come after Me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow Me.
Matthew 19:21 NKJV
Jesus said to him, “If you want to be perfect, go, sell what you have and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; and come, follow Me.â€
Matthew 4:19-20 NKJV
Then He said to them, “Follow Me, and I will make you fishers of men.†They immediately left their nets and followed Him.
Ntoppo here is a few verses. That’s why I didn’t tie it to a verse because he said this many times as if to emphasize.
I think your missing the point. He is the centerpiece, He is the point, He is our intercessory. We are to follow Him. I’m not trying to dishonor Mary because she played a very important role in our salvation. To put it better look at what John the baptist said (and he also had his much important role)
John 3:30 NKJV
He must increase, but I must decrease.
1 Peter 3:18 NKJV
For Christ also suffered once for sins, the just for the unjust, that He might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh but made alive by the Spirit,
That “He” might bring us to God not Mary.
1 Corinthians 16:23 NKJV
The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you.
Not the grace of our lady be with you.
Brother I pray you let Christ be above all, search the scripture for yourself, pray the Holy spirit to lead you into the pure and holy and powerfully simple teaching of Jesus Christ our Lord in Jesus name amen.
1 Corinthians 11:1 NKJV
Imitate me, just as I also imitate Christ.
Jesus Himself prayed for us and is our intercessor.
Preethi says: Dani who is against Mary’s role in redemption.
Reply: it is the most sad thing you have grieved Jesus by DENYING his perfect role for your redemption. Who died to take your sins? There is no remission of sins WITHOUT shedding of blood. So who died for you Preethi and shed His blood for you? Mary didnt shed any blood for our sins. She didnt die for us.
“Without shedding of Blood there is no remission of sins …”(Heb 9:22)
My dear – what has made you to rebel against Jesus Christ your Lord!
Thou shalt have no other gods before me. (Ex 20:3)
We as Christians are very clearly instructed no to have any other gods. That means we should pray only to God. If we pray to Mary or anyone else – how does it still be obedient to the above commandment. Its rather a direct Contradiction to the command of God. If so, what and how can we justify praying to Mary?
Support your answers with Bible reference if possible. God bless
@ Dani
hmm I have already supported my statements.
You will not understand what I have understood, nor I will understand what you say because we practice different faith in Christ.
We don’t worship Mary, so going against law isn’t in the equation. If you can at least remove the viewpoint against it, you will know.
I have not implied and never will I say anything against salvation provided by our saviour. He is our ultimate destination.
Nothing taught by Catholic church is against The Bible. Everything originates from it. You can refer Cathechism online by just googling for it. You will find whole resource, not for only one point.
Thank you. Peace out bro.
I hope you all will see that if you exalt anything but Jesus you have missed the mark.
No need to reply I’ve seen enough. So I say to the believers who only pray to and with Jesus don’t bother these people anymore because here is what the scripture says about them.
Matthew 13:14-15 NKJV
And in them the prophecy of Isaiah is fulfilled, which says:
‘Hearing you will hear and shall not understand,
And seeing you will see and not perceive; For the hearts of this people have grown dull.
Their ears are hard of hearing,
And their eyes they have closed,
Lest they should see with their eyes and hear with their ears,
Lest they should understand with their hearts and turn,
So that I should heal them.’
Luke 9:5 NKJV
And whoever will not receive you, when you go out of that city, shake off the very dust from your feet as a testimony against them.â€
Peace to all whom the Lord called unto Himself. His sheep know His voice. Goodbye.
@chase— Ntoppo here is a few verses. That’s why I didn’t tie it to a verse because he said this many times as if to emphasize.
I think your missing the point. He is the centerpiece, He is the point, He is our intercessory. We are to follow Him.
i don’t miss your point. every catholic knows it’s Jesus whom we are to follow. i put those verses-1Co:11:1, 2Th:3:9 to know what type of faith you have in Jesus. Don’t say – “i didn’t tie it†rather say – “I couldn’t tie itâ€. do you follow Jesus because he said it twice, thrice or more? cool!
we imitate(not follow) Mary because she followed Him. Paul, Peter, all Saints followed Him. and yes Jesus is the centerpiece and will always be the same. “He alone†is the Way. He Alone is the intercessor.
but you can’t imitate Mary, Peter or Paul because your NOTs are the problem.
Jesus IS…. NOT Mary
Jesus IS…. NOT Paul
Jesus IS…. NOT Peter
i remember someone has mentioned a doctrine ‘All-Believers-Are-Saints’ on this thread long before. if you take every verse which contains the word “saint†and examine it, you will find many verses do not match this “all believers are saint†dogma. you can’t justify it unless you twist, change their meaning or just ignore those passages.
what i want to say don’t just pick up bible, choose a suitable verse and start blaming catholics. every verse is important.
last thing
would you please tell me the basic and essential difference between the words to Follow and to Imitate?(i have a copy of KJV not NKJV)
may be that would convince me why you ‘didn’t tied to that verseâ€
after all, Truth does not depend on words
ok fine. so finally brother Chase has said goodbye. he has left some important verses for us. if someone knows him please tell him that i have some verses (of course important) for him.
Ro:14:10: But why dost thou judge thy brother? or why dost thou set at nought thy brother? for we shall all stand before the judgment seat of Christ.
1Co:4:4: For I know nothing by myself; yet am I not hereby justified: but he that judgeth me is the Lord.
1Co:4:5: Therefore judge nothing before the time, until the Lord come, who both will bring to light the hidden things of darkness, and will make manifest the counsels of the hearts: and then shall every man have praise of God.
1Co:10:29: Conscience, I say, not thine own, but of the other: for why is my liberty judged of another man’s conscience?
1Co:11:31: For if we would judge ourselves, we should not be judged.
Re:20:13: And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.
bro Chase thinks of himself a true follower of Jesus, so i put Jesus’ own words, he wouldn’t deny it
M’t:7:1: Judge not, that ye be not judged.
M’t:7:2: For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.
Joh:7:24: Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment.
i suggest him not to be in a hurry in judging others
Lu:12:2: For there is nothing covered, that shall not be revealed; neither hid, that shall not be known.
MARY,MY MOTHER
EMPTY THE BLESSING OF YOUR SPIRIT UPON ME.
WHEN MY HEART IS HARD AND PARCHED UP
COME UPON ME WITH A SHOWER OF MERCY.
WHEN MY BEGGARLY HEART SITS CROUCHED
SHUT UP IN A CORNER
BREAK UPON THE DOOR…
WHEN DESRIRE BLINDS THE MIND WITH DELUSION/DUST
O THOU HOLY ONE,THOU WAKEFUL
COME WITH THY LIGHT AND THUNDER.
AMEN.
luv u Mother…luv u soooo…much..:-)
Another prayer to Mary as mentioned above:
MARY,MY MOTHER
EMPTY THE BLESSING OF YOUR SPIRIT UPON ME.
WHEN MY HEART IS HARD AND PARCHED UP
COME UPON ME WITH A SHOWER OF MERCY.
WHEN MY BEGGARLY HEART SITS CROUCHED
SHUT UP IN A CORNER
BREAK UPON THE DOOR…
WHEN DESRIRE BLINDS THE MIND WITH DELUSION/DUST
O THOU HOLY ONE,THOU WAKEFUL
COME WITH THY LIGHT AND THUNDER.
AMEN.
luv u Mother…luv u soooo…much..:-)
Not to mention the lsat sentence as a prayer and worshipping sentence – a worship to Mary.
Dear catholics – why do you pray to a Creation rather than a Creator? Whom will u face in judgemtn seat – the Creator God Jesus or some created humans?
Its just grave injustice to the pain and suffering that our Lord Jesus alone endured while dying for you and me on the cross. What then has made you to obey the deceptions of the pagan traditions that have crept into our church?
Jesus said: I am the Way.
What does Mary say ? Nothing.
Jesus said: No man can see the Father except THROUGH ME (JESUS) This is a promise too.
What does Mary promise us?
Jesus – he is our Creator God.
Mary – like all of us, a creation only.
Jesus – is alive in the resurrected body.
Mary – her body is rot in her grave here on earth just as all the saints of Christ.
Did she resurrect? NO.
Did Jesus resurrect? I already said above – YES.
Jesus said: “Who can convict me of Sin?” A bold question by the sinless Christ to the disbelieving people. Why He said so? Because He is sinless.
About Jesus:
He had no sin.
He knew no sin.
He did no sin.
He alone loved the sinner – and died for them shedding His blood for their Redemption.
And He alone is the one who says – “i will be with you Always”
Jesus promised – because I live, you shall live also.
Could / had Mary promised anything? Ask yourselves. This is a matter between life and eternal death.
In the above post which i have copied down there – anyone can CLEARLY without any bias understand that it is a Prayer TO Mary. Yes thats what Romans done to our church by mixing their traditions to our Christian beliefs.
Dear friends- rather than sincerely debating for something that de-glorifies Christ, would you rather live your life for the one who died for you and is ALIVE?
God is never mocked, my friends. He cannot promise you one thing and then withdraw it. Why? Because He alone is God.
Whom will you turn your hearts to? Fromt the above post (the prayer to Mary) you can see the modt disgraceful sight – JESUS CHRIST is not at all there in that prayer. My friends – what have made you to disobey Christ and to rebel against HIs word. What pulls you back from coming directly to this Jesus Christ the only God? What makes you to still disobey CHrist and seek Mary to approach Christ? By doing this prayer to Mary and this pracitce of coming to Jesus Christ thru Mary – you have disregarded the promise of Jesus, made light the promises of Jesus. Beloved, will you still hold onto to the pagan traditions that in your ignorace the Romans have mixed it with our Church?
The choice is for you – Life or Death. Prosperity in Christ or Disaster thru the traditions. God would rather you choose the Salvation thru Jesus Christ alone and forsake all pagan beliefs and traditions of praying to Mary and saints. God Jesus guide you all.
in Christ……. dani (danioct @ yahoo . com )
Dear all,
I am a Catholic, and i am proud to be one, that doesn’t give me a ticket to Heaven, but by the grace of God, Let me ask u a question, why is it that the Mother Mary should appear to many people in this world and keep warning about the dangers the world is going to encounter. not to just discrete people (Fatima apparition) but also to an entire group of people (“The Miracle of the Sun”). there is some thing special This Historical Mother wants to say so please let us listen to her….
Glory to GOD,
Hail Mary…….
GeOrGe.
Mary, although a servant of The Most High God..should not be prayed to…Jesus clearly stated that, “no man comes to the Father, but through ME”…Mary simply fulfilled a prophecy and a directive from God…Mar did not give God The Father made flesh (Jesus) permission to perform any miracle, period. In the Gospel according to John the 14th chapter Jesus clearly and plainly defines the way to the Father…through Him, our advocate…Mary has no place to be worshiped…she bore the Son of God not our transgressions…
Dear Friends,
I humbly request you all to check out the following sites which answers many questions we all have. The answers are totally based on the Holy Bible. You will be amazed to see what the real truth is and how we all have been following false teachings thus sinning against God our Father and Jesus Christ our only Savior.
Please visit
http://www.biblicist.org/bible/catholic.shtml
http://www.gotquestions.org/search.php?zoom_sort=0&zoom_query=Roman+Catholic+teachings
Peace
geena
As to where in the Bible does it say to pray to Mary, where in the Bible does it say that the written word is the only source of authentic Christian doctrine? Most of the Old Testament was an oral tradition before it was written. Neither Mark nor Luke were apostles so their Gospel accounts were based upon the testimony of other eyewitnesses. It was not first hand.
In 2 Thessalonians 15 Paul writes: “Therefore, brothers, stand firm and hold fast to the traditions that you were taught, either by an oral statement or by a letter of ours.”
Before the Gospels were written, the traditions of the faith were transmitted orally and through letters. At this time there was no canonical New Testament. The Gospels were written out of the lived faith of the Christian communities to whom they were addressed.
From the earliest times Mary was honored as the Mother of God. We continue to honor Mary and ask her to join us in interceding to her son Our Lord Jesus Christ.
hi friends:
It is very unfortunate to see people worshiping Mary even after reading the bible. Only the trinity of God (the father, the son, and the holy spirit) is worthy of worship. Mary was of course a blessed lady like many of other people mentioned in the bible and like us also who have got the anointing of the holy spirit but nobody deserves to be worshiped and prayed other than the Lord Jehovah, Lord Jesus, and Lord Holy Spirit. Please read bible where it clearly states us that our ONLY INTERCESSOR TO LORD ALMIGHTY IS JESUS. ONLY JESUS died for us for our sins and not Mary. Jesus shed his blood for the atonement of our sins and nobody else. This is a SIN if you are giving God’s place to Mary. Dear friends do not be fooled by anybody because by worshiping Mary you are breaking the very first commandment out of 10 that says “I am the Lord thy God..thou shalt have no other Gods before me.” Please read the bible carefully..how many times have you seen the name of Mary in the Gospel, leave the rest of the letters and the book of “Revelations.” If you also accept Jesus and Lord Almighty as your God please find out in the bible..did they ever say that Mary should be worshiped..When Mary told Jesus in the wedding at Cana that they have no more wine what did Jesus say to her “Woman, how does this concern of yours affect me?” Please only follow Bible and its teachings and nothing else. I pray that God open your spiritual eyes that you may see and come to know what is wrong and what is right. God bless you all.